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Old 09-03-2022, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by IMZSTIG
so with your trade back the dealer makes a nice profit. Basically you’re paying ADM every one to two years. Why bash the guys who pay it once to get what they keep and don’t trade in?
Yes, I leave a few bucks on the table when I trade the cars back in to my dealer but I've always gotten MSRP or a little above for my GT trade ins and very fair trade ins for my Macans and Cayennes. A business relationship goes both ways, where both parties benefit. The dealer makes money selling to me at MSRP and then additional money on reselling those same cars that I trade in and I get GT allocations without having to beg for them or pay over MSRP. I'd bet that most of the guys that pay big ADMs are ones that want the new shiny toys ASAP and they probably churn through cars faster than I do. Thankfully there are only so many of those morons out there who pay big ADMs.
Old 09-03-2022, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WenigerAberBeser
This has turned into the Suze Orman show
Sadly, I would agree.
This thread has run its course and is now on the verge of sheer absurdity.


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Old 09-03-2022, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Sadly, I would agree.
This thread has run its course and is now on the verge of sheer absurdity.
Perhaps we can all just try to go back to the original purpose of this thread (which was useful to get an indication of where the market was at) by just talking about ADMs (or maybe lack thereof in the future) from recent convos people had with dealers. Honestly I doubt any of us actually care how other people on here paid for their cars - it makes absolutely zero difference to any one person. Finance it, pay cash, trade your children for it, I don’t care - but if you can let us know what deal you got - hey, thanks for the info!
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Old 09-03-2022, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Reece Harvath
you're a broken record
do you keep repeating yourself
so you don't forget your own bs?
I speak the truth, not sure why it bothers you.
Old 09-04-2022, 09:19 AM
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https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...2-gt3-touring/

^^^ Attempt to bring this back to the original thread subject. Almost $100K over selling price on a $195K build. Touring: PTS, steel breaks and sofas.
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Old 09-04-2022, 09:43 AM
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This one is an anomaly, but still absolutely mind blowing. This non-PTS Touring sold a couple weeks ago for ~$200k over MSRP ($417,500 including buyers premium). 🤯

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/m...ackage/1271250

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Old 09-04-2022, 09:58 AM
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It is and it isn’t. In that setting, there will
be many people with more money than time left in this world, and sales like those are not uncommon. Not the general market norm, sure, but not so much the anomaly. I mean, Sally sold for $3.6MM same week.
Old 09-04-2022, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
This one is an anomaly, but still absolutely mind blowing. This non-PTS Touring sold a couple weeks ago for ~$200k over MSRP ($417,500 including buyers premium). 🤯

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/m...ackage/1271250
That is pure insanity - while yes it’s a GT3T there is nothing that special about that build. I don’t get that massive premium at all.
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Old 09-04-2022, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by av12345
That is pure insanity - while yes it’s a GT3T there is nothing that special about that build. I don’t get that massive premium at all.
There were some pretty crazy sales at that auction. A 928 GTS sold at that auction for $406k which is about $150k-$200k more than it was expected/should have done. So some sales there that will probably not become the norm any time soon if ever.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/m...28-gts/1262908

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Old 09-04-2022, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
There were some pretty crazy sales at that auction. A 928 GTS sold at that auction for $406k which is about $150k-$200k more than it was expected/should have done. So some sales there that will probably not become the norm any time soon if ever.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/m...28-gts/1262908
These things are all over the board, the below was a deal tank and similar spec to the above minus PCCB’s.


Old 09-04-2022, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by IMZSTIG
yea. But have you seen the service costs for the 20k-30k-50k on a Ferrari?
Yes, they’re free.

It’s called the 7 year service plan that comes with a new Ferrari after 2015.

I just had my 20k service done. $0k. And free car wash. And free biscotti and espresso. What’s not to like?
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Old 09-04-2022, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Yes, they’re free.

It’s called the 7 year service plan that comes with a new Ferrari after 2015.

I just had my 20k service done. $0k. And free car wash. And free biscotti and espresso. What’s not to like?
F cars 2012 and later have been pretty bullet proof. Think the 7 year plan started with the 458’s it came with my 2013 458 Spider. The waiting rooms are awesome by the way
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Old 09-04-2022, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sacguy71
I rather get a used Ferrari 458 than pay 100k over sticker for a GT3.
the problem with Ferrari is you cant drive them. I’ve had 5 and the miles kill resale. It’s awful but it’s a hard fact. Ferrari owners cant wait to not drive their cars because the miles disproportionately kill their value more than any other car
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Old 09-04-2022, 04:10 PM
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This is true. What is current ADM for a sport classic?
Old 09-05-2022, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Grunspan
the problem with Ferrari is you cant drive them. I’ve had 5 and the miles kill resale. It’s awful but it’s a hard fact. Ferrari owners cant wait to not drive their cars because the miles disproportionately kill their value more than any other car
Time to look for a high mileage F-car. 😉


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