Originally Posted by Rxpert

I thought the entire rear seat idea was just wishful thinking here on Rennlist. Unless someone’s cleaning lady’s room-mate has a lead on a rumor?!?!?!?

For what it’s worth, I’m in the camp that would support it offered as a cost option.

Originally Posted by AlexCeres

complete fantasy land. It would be cool though, and fit with the theme of offering the lightweight package for the 992 TTS. Porsche is nothing if not masterful at slicing their demographics as finely as possible.

Originally Posted by Rxpert

Darn it. I thought it was complete “fantasy land” too haha, but a tiny bit inside me was hoping the previous post came from something I missed or a tiny rumor. I guess I’ll start putting the kids booster seats back into the storage room

Originally Posted by AlexCeres

others would know better, but I think this is speculation based on how popular and profitable the Touring model was. It'd be trivial to do and extremely lucrative. No point letting customers save money on a 4S or gts if they're interested in upselling themselves to a gt3t with an extra surcharge...

Originally Posted by GrantG

I don’t think the profit margin of a GT3 is necessarily higher than GTS, even though the price is...

Originally Posted by RS911

I remember when we were visiting the factory, one of our guides told us something interesting. So, whenever they were running behind or overloaded on the assembly line, they would stick a GT car in between. Apparently the GT cars have less parts and therefore can be produced faster.

Originally Posted by Tangerine

They could easily sell more Tourings if they offered a back seat option, but do they need/want to sell any more of them?

We won't know for sure until someone takes delivery of the first 992 GT3 and rips the upholstery up to install a roll cage. The 997 had the mounting points for seat belts; the 991 removed them to save 0.5 lbs or whatever. :P

Originally Posted by AlexCeres

others would know better, but I think this is speculation based on how popular and profitable the Touring model was. It'd be trivial to do and extremely lucrative. No point letting customers save money on a 4S or gts if they're interested in upselling themselves to a gt3t with an extra surcharge...

Originally Posted by groundhog

I think you'll find there are plenty out there that prefer the GTS to something like the GT3T - its an extremely flexible package that can be configured in a multitude of ways and performance wise gives little up to a GT3. The other point to note is the 9A2 twin turbo has shown itself to be an excellent engine in its own right.

Originally Posted by Drifting

You are right about the torque of the 4.0L engine. They will likely just slightly surpass the 991.2 RS so about 348-350ft lbs makes sense for the 991.2 GT3.

With the Porsche GT cars, they tend to not increase the torque very much at once. I don't think we would see anything more than 363 for the 4.2L 992.1 RS. Have we ever seen Porsche increase the torque of a GT car by more than 15 ft-lbs between generations/facelifts? (even when increasing displacement)

Originally Posted by Christian Plyler

Isn't it also possible that they increase the power just by upping the redline a bit? If we're allowed to turn 9200rpm, for example, get get more power without any torque increase at all.

Originally Posted by subshooter

No. Power actually goes down as rpm approaches red line in an NA engine.

Originally Posted by subshooter

No. Power actually goes down as rpm approaches red line in an NA engine. Here is one example from the 991.1.

Originally Posted by Christian Plyler

Um... that may be true for a lot of engines, but is not some absolute law of physics.

Originally Posted by GrantG

Power does go down after you pass the peak power point on the tach (8,250 rpm in .2 GT3 and 8,400 rpm in .3 RS and Speedster). But, by changing camshafts and other parameters, the peak power point and redline can both be raised and more power can be produced (torque will be largely unchanged).