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I had a customer of mine stop by with his 997.2T after having this upgrade done. I felt the difference in the parking lot before I even made it onto the road haha. Car felt much more planted, and confidence inspiring in cornering. I can only imagine the difference at speed on a track. Thumps up to DSC for a great product 
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Are there are any pics/videos or instructions for a DSC V2 install in a 991 with back seats? I've seen the video installing into a GT3 but that is obviously different... I haven't looked too hard but wondering if the install is possible without removing the rear seat backs.
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DSC Sport: did I hear on the intro video that you found no difference between the normal and sport settings of PASM? On my 991 I do feel the the Sport setting is slightly firmer, but perhaps it is in my head...
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Are there are any pics/videos or instructions for a DSC V2 install in a 991 with back seats? I've seen the video installing into a GT3 but that is obviously different... I haven't looked too hard but wondering if the install is possible without removing the rear seat backs.
I don't believe we've ever said that; if so it was not intentional. To which video are you referring?
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H DSC: the video I am referring to is the DSC intro video on your website, where you are installing your module in a GT3. It is the V2 DSC module install video and around 6:15 you say that the difference between normal and sport was miniscule and that there is virtually no difference between the two modes. Did I misinterpret something?
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Assuming we get some nice weather I'll wedge myself into the backseat area again and take another look...
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I am in the same boat with rear seats.
Looking at it again, not an easy or intuitive install really.
The separation in the insulation is below where the lower seating surface of the rear seats, which is behind the rear center console. While it looks like you could try to not remove the center console and squeeze the carpet back under it (I wonder it you would ever achieve the factory smooth look) you definitely have to do something with the mounting points of the upper seat backs which bolt into the carpet somehow.
Can someone help with a PET diagram on how those are removed?
I almost wonder of the factory access plan isn't to remove the carpet from the top where it butts against the rear of the car?
Where can I get my own copy of the PET - years ago I ordered it from GERT in Europe, who has the modern digital one for sale?
Thanks.
Looking at it again, not an easy or intuitive install really.
The separation in the insulation is below where the lower seating surface of the rear seats, which is behind the rear center console. While it looks like you could try to not remove the center console and squeeze the carpet back under it (I wonder it you would ever achieve the factory smooth look) you definitely have to do something with the mounting points of the upper seat backs which bolt into the carpet somehow.
Can someone help with a PET diagram on how those are removed?
I almost wonder of the factory access plan isn't to remove the carpet from the top where it butts against the rear of the car?
Where can I get my own copy of the PET - years ago I ordered it from GERT in Europe, who has the modern digital one for sale?
Thanks.
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Yeah that is my issue, I don't really see where or what panel to pull up on. I didn't spent much time back there it just looks like carpet and the seatback (folded) blocks access to the very bottom.
Assuming we get some nice weather I'll wedge myself into the backseat area again and take another look...
Assuming we get some nice weather I'll wedge myself into the backseat area again and take another look...
Also, be sure to google "991 rear seat removal"--I remember seeing a posting on how to do it.
Overall, took me about ~1 hour to install the module; not hard, but I took my time and was extra cautious. The hardest part was pulling up the carpeting (and being careful to not scratch/scuff up the leather panels on the side), and getting the OEM module unplugged...
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I am in the same boat with rear seats.
Looking at it again, not an easy or intuitive install really.
The separation in the insulation is below where the lower seating surface of the rear seats, which is behind the rear center console. While it looks like you could try to not remove the center console and squeeze the carpet back under it (I wonder it you would ever achieve the factory smooth look) you definitely have to do something with the mounting points of the upper seat backs which bolt into the carpet somehow.
Can someone help with a PET diagram on how those are removed?
I almost wonder of the factory access plan isn't to remove the carpet from the top where it butts against the rear of the car?
Where can I get my own copy of the PET - years ago I ordered it from GERT in Europe, who has the modern digital one for sale?
Thanks.
Looking at it again, not an easy or intuitive install really.
The separation in the insulation is below where the lower seating surface of the rear seats, which is behind the rear center console. While it looks like you could try to not remove the center console and squeeze the carpet back under it (I wonder it you would ever achieve the factory smooth look) you definitely have to do something with the mounting points of the upper seat backs which bolt into the carpet somehow.
Can someone help with a PET diagram on how those are removed?
I almost wonder of the factory access plan isn't to remove the carpet from the top where it butts against the rear of the car?
Where can I get my own copy of the PET - years ago I ordered it from GERT in Europe, who has the modern digital one for sale?
Thanks.
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From: Jessup, MD
Hey guys,
Before too many people spend too much time on this, one of the guys here at the shop confirmed that he was able to install the DSC without removing the seats on a 991 GTS a few months back. He said that he wedged his fingers into the corners once the seats were folded down and simply lifted up.
Our NZ dealer, Jeff Delio, also works at a Porsche dealership. He's going to figure out the easiest way to do this on Monday (in NZ time, which is 16 hours ahead of us) and report back to me.
Sorry for the confusion; we should have some clear instructions soon!
- Jordan
Before too many people spend too much time on this, one of the guys here at the shop confirmed that he was able to install the DSC without removing the seats on a 991 GTS a few months back. He said that he wedged his fingers into the corners once the seats were folded down and simply lifted up.
Our NZ dealer, Jeff Delio, also works at a Porsche dealership. He's going to figure out the easiest way to do this on Monday (in NZ time, which is 16 hours ahead of us) and report back to me.
Sorry for the confusion; we should have some clear instructions soon!
- Jordan
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From: Jessup, MD
H DSC: the video I am referring to is the DSC intro video on your website, where you are installing your module in a GT3. It is the V2 DSC module install video and around 6:15 you say that the difference between normal and sport was miniscule and that there is virtually no difference between the two modes. Did I misinterpret something?
The video your referencing is of our engineer/owner/developer/driver. I think he either meant that the difference in damping levels WITHIN a given mode is miniscule or he was just getting excited about offering the V2 controller and exaggerated a bit. We don't claim that there is no, or even miniscule, difference between the two factory modes. Sport is certainly noticeably firmer than Comfort. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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You can't fold the seats down...I just did the install on my 2015 991 GTS with the help of this video:
DSC V2 Install Instructions on 991 - YouTube
Also, be sure to google "991 rear seat removal"--I remember seeing a posting on how to do it.
Overall, took me about ~1 hour to install the module; not hard, but I took my time and was extra cautious. The hardest part was pulling up the carpeting (and being careful to not scratch/scuff up the leather panels on the side), and getting the OEM module unplugged...
DSC V2 Install Instructions on 991 - YouTube
Also, be sure to google "991 rear seat removal"--I remember seeing a posting on how to do it.
Overall, took me about ~1 hour to install the module; not hard, but I took my time and was extra cautious. The hardest part was pulling up the carpeting (and being careful to not scratch/scuff up the leather panels on the side), and getting the OEM module unplugged...