HOT FOR SALE: Pick of the Week 991
05-30-2021, 01:27 AM
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Just to comment on RAC Performance - total misrep on a recent transaction. I had several bites on a transaction to sell my car. An "investor" of that shop contacted me through a PCA ad I had listed (also joined here and listed on marketplace). The entire time I was told this was for his personal use. He balked at the PPI results he thought seemed odd after I took time to arrange locally and seemed disputatious with the shop owner on a few things, none of which were anything remarkable.
Eventually the car was sold to them in an easy transaction. About a week later, I was alerted it was listed on their site. Texted this "investor" and was told "to be clear this was for personal use." Total liar. Next it went to sale pending and was sold, all within 3-4 weeks after it left me. Don't know the ultimate price but it was listed about 9k above my selling price. Went out of my way to include extra mats and did not remove some OEM upgrades that weren't exactly designed to be part of the sale as I thought it was going to an enthusiast. Had I know the tactic, I would not have sold it to them but obviously a personal decision (and it was not at full asking price).
Just my thoughts but I'd skip buying from a place that operates in this manner. In fact, I saw RAC ****** a BAT listing after mine and predicted it would be a flip for them on the comments. Was exactly right on the call for that one too as it showed up there and is gone. Not illegal in any way but just underhanded when I was told one thing and something else occurred - that part is unfortunate and completely disingenuous.
My advice, check reviews on yelp, google, and on here for dealing with these places. Although some are dedicated enthusiasts, at the end of the transaction it is just another car in many cases to them.
Eventually the car was sold to them in an easy transaction. About a week later, I was alerted it was listed on their site. Texted this "investor" and was told "to be clear this was for personal use." Total liar. Next it went to sale pending and was sold, all within 3-4 weeks after it left me. Don't know the ultimate price but it was listed about 9k above my selling price. Went out of my way to include extra mats and did not remove some OEM upgrades that weren't exactly designed to be part of the sale as I thought it was going to an enthusiast. Had I know the tactic, I would not have sold it to them but obviously a personal decision (and it was not at full asking price).
Just my thoughts but I'd skip buying from a place that operates in this manner. In fact, I saw RAC ****** a BAT listing after mine and predicted it would be a flip for them on the comments. Was exactly right on the call for that one too as it showed up there and is gone. Not illegal in any way but just underhanded when I was told one thing and something else occurred - that part is unfortunate and completely disingenuous.
My advice, check reviews on yelp, google, and on here for dealing with these places. Although some are dedicated enthusiasts, at the end of the transaction it is just another car in many cases to them.
I wanted a CPO car, 24 month warranty, didn't really care about Sport Chrono, so I could shop[ the dealers. Those wanting a Sport Chrono car with a CPO, your only option is to buy it from a private party. If you can live without Sport Chrono, as I decided to do, and want some, or all of a 24 month CPO warranty, you can either buy it from a Porsche dealer, or a car from a private party with X months of warranty remaining. No way I am spending $80,000 on a 8 year old Carrera S lacking a Factory Warranty. But that's just me...
Last edited by Martin S.; 05-30-2021 at 01:32 AM.
05-30-2021, 10:21 PM
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Here you go, maybe this will help-
Price:$109,265.00
Exterior:Guards RedInterior:Black standard interiorWarranty Start
ecember 19, 2011Warranty Endecember 20, 2017 BASE
Doppelkupplung (PDK)276Automatically dimming mirrors342Seat heating (front)42320-inch Carrera S wheel583Smoking package603Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)630Light Design Package636ParkAssist (front and rear)651Electric sunroof658Power Steering Plus672Navigation Module680BOSE® Surround Sound System690SiriusXM® Satellite Radio Receiver and HD Radio® Receiver748Electric folding exterior mirrors762Launch vehicle844Multi-function Steering WheelAGBlack standard interiorG1Guards RedP06Power Sport Seats (14-way)
Seems like a very reasonably priced 991S. You should also post the carfax and larger images if you can.
Price:$109,265.00
Exterior:Guards RedInterior:Black standard interiorWarranty Start
ecember 19, 2011Warranty Endecember 20, 2017 BASEDoppelkupplung (PDK)276Automatically dimming mirrors342Seat heating (front)42320-inch Carrera S wheel583Smoking package603Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)630Light Design Package636ParkAssist (front and rear)651Electric sunroof658Power Steering Plus672Navigation Module680BOSE® Surround Sound System690SiriusXM® Satellite Radio Receiver and HD Radio® Receiver748Electric folding exterior mirrors762Launch vehicle844Multi-function Steering WheelAGBlack standard interiorG1Guards RedP06Power Sport Seats (14-way)
Seems like a very reasonably priced 991S. You should also post the carfax and larger images if you can.
And it doesn't even have premium pkg plus, leather, sunroof, keyless entry, Sport Chrono or ventilated seats?
Is this a zero mileage 911? Even so, you could buy a 2019 Base for less than $109k.
I missed and don't see where this came from.
Is this a joke?
05-30-2021, 10:45 PM
Drifting
Seems like a ridiculously overpriced 10 year old Base 991.1 launch vehicle already out of warranty 3-1/2 years.
And it doesn't even have premium pkg plus, leather, sunroof, keyless entry, Sport Chrono or ventilated seats?
Is this a zero mileage 911? Even so, you could buy a 2019 Base for less than $109k.
I missed and don't see where this came from.
Is this a joke?
And it doesn't even have premium pkg plus, leather, sunroof, keyless entry, Sport Chrono or ventilated seats?
Is this a zero mileage 911? Even so, you could buy a 2019 Base for less than $109k.
I missed and don't see where this came from.
Is this a joke?
They should only allow paying members to run classified ads.
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06-03-2021, 07:52 AM
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06-03-2021, 01:20 PM
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06-03-2021, 02:30 PM
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06-04-2021, 03:50 AM
Ive become a new member! No longer just a user!
Since I enjoy the car I ended up never going in to autonation to trade car in, spoke w them on phone and just didnt feel right. Felt like a used car salesperson - which i guess they are. I think they overpromise and under deliver.
When I picked up the car, i wondered how could anyone in their right mind part w a porsche 911, toyota camry ok (no offense to camry owners, ive owned 2!), but 911?? ive done what I never thought I would do - list the car for sale. Like I stated in the ad - Number of kids > number of back seats.
Since I enjoy the car I ended up never going in to autonation to trade car in, spoke w them on phone and just didnt feel right. Felt like a used car salesperson - which i guess they are. I think they overpromise and under deliver.
When I picked up the car, i wondered how could anyone in their right mind part w a porsche 911, toyota camry ok (no offense to camry owners, ive owned 2!), but 911?? ive done what I never thought I would do - list the car for sale. Like I stated in the ad - Number of kids > number of back seats.
06-05-2021, 01:13 PM
Burning Brakes
So, I know this should be in the Turbo forum, but just throwing this out there since the prices are definitely overlapping for many 991.1 GTS and 991.2 cars ATM.
Here's a 2015 911 Turbo that has 38K miles with an MSRP of $169K for $113K.
I've seen quite a few 991.2 S cars going for similar money and GTS for similar or more money.
Right now, for the money, this would be HFS for me if I were looking for a PDK car.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AD2A90FS166162/
Here's a 2015 911 Turbo that has 38K miles with an MSRP of $169K for $113K.
I've seen quite a few 991.2 S cars going for similar money and GTS for similar or more money.
Right now, for the money, this would be HFS for me if I were looking for a PDK car.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
https://vinanalytics.com/car/WP0AD2A90FS166162/
06-06-2021, 03:55 PM
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Could someone tell me what's the best way to assure that you get the car you want?
I was ready to pull the trigger on an awesome deal (white 991.1 base MT with 31k miles for 50kUSD), told the guy I'm ready to transfer the deposit, then he sold it to someone who could actually go there in person. An entire year into my search, I find something finally and then this. Grrrrr
On a different note, if someone has a speed yellow 991.1 base MT for sale, let me know
I was ready to pull the trigger on an awesome deal (white 991.1 base MT with 31k miles for 50kUSD), told the guy I'm ready to transfer the deposit, then he sold it to someone who could actually go there in person. An entire year into my search, I find something finally and then this. Grrrrr
On a different note, if someone has a speed yellow 991.1 base MT for sale, let me know
06-06-2021, 04:26 PM
Could someone tell me what's the best way to assure that you get the car you want?
I was ready to pull the trigger on an awesome deal (white 991.1 base MT with 31k miles for 50kUSD), told the guy I'm ready to transfer the deposit, then he sold it to someone who could actually go there in person. An entire year into my search, I find something finally and then this. Grrrrr
On a different note, if someone has a speed yellow 991.1 base MT for sale, let me know
I was ready to pull the trigger on an awesome deal (white 991.1 base MT with 31k miles for 50kUSD), told the guy I'm ready to transfer the deposit, then he sold it to someone who could actually go there in person. An entire year into my search, I find something finally and then this. Grrrrr
On a different note, if someone has a speed yellow 991.1 base MT for sale, let me know
06-06-2021, 04:38 PM
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Could someone tell me what's the best way to assure that you get the car you want?
I was ready to pull the trigger on an awesome deal (white 991.1 base MT with 31k miles for 50kUSD), told the guy I'm ready to transfer the deposit, then he sold it to someone who could actually go there in person. An entire year into my search, I find something finally and then this. Grrrrr
On a different note, if someone has a speed yellow 991.1 base MT for sale, let me know
I was ready to pull the trigger on an awesome deal (white 991.1 base MT with 31k miles for 50kUSD), told the guy I'm ready to transfer the deposit, then he sold it to someone who could actually go there in person. An entire year into my search, I find something finally and then this. Grrrrr
On a different note, if someone has a speed yellow 991.1 base MT for sale, let me know
06-06-2021, 05:20 PM
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That's good to know. I didn't quite want to play the dirty game, even though I could have offered a few thousands more than the other buyer. It's not the end of the world though, just really frustrating.
Last edited by thelampire; 06-06-2021 at 05:22 PM.
06-06-2021, 05:40 PM
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This posting was marked sold because i contacted the seller and wired him a deposit on it last weekend.
https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1253516
It was originally way underpriced at $62,500. I contacted the seller and he said he's now at 66,500. While on the phone the price becomes 70,000. Ok, whatever, still a good deal.
I found the car (same VIN #) listed online at a dealer in the area a few days later. Seller ignored my text messages until i told him my police officer brother found his REAL name, address, and that he'd been arrested twice. Seller responded and returned my deposit only after i threatened to have him arrested for a third time. I recommend banning this criminal from the forum. Apparently he was "just about to get a hold of me"
I don't know if this guy even owned the car. Or was just trying to hustle me with pictures from the dealer listing. Either way he was clearly ignoring me until i provided him with his real name, address, and criminal record.
Just a warning to others...
https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1253516
It was originally way underpriced at $62,500. I contacted the seller and he said he's now at 66,500. While on the phone the price becomes 70,000. Ok, whatever, still a good deal.
I found the car (same VIN #) listed online at a dealer in the area a few days later. Seller ignored my text messages until i told him my police officer brother found his REAL name, address, and that he'd been arrested twice. Seller responded and returned my deposit only after i threatened to have him arrested for a third time. I recommend banning this criminal from the forum. Apparently he was "just about to get a hold of me"
I don't know if this guy even owned the car. Or was just trying to hustle me with pictures from the dealer listing. Either way he was clearly ignoring me until i provided him with his real name, address, and criminal record.
Just a warning to others...
06-06-2021, 06:39 PM
Instructor
This posting was marked sold because i contacted the seller and wired him a deposit on it last weekend.
https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1253516
It was originally way underpriced at $62,500. I contacted the seller and he said he's now at 66,500. While on the phone the price becomes 70,000. Ok, whatever, still a good deal.
I found the car (same VIN #) listed online at a dealer in the area a few days later. Seller ignored my text messages until i told him my police officer brother found his REAL name, address, and that he'd been arrested twice. Seller responded and returned my deposit only after i threatened to have him arrested for a third time. I recommend banning this criminal from the forum. Apparently he was "just about to get a hold of me"
I don't know if this guy even owned the car. Or was just trying to hustle me with pictures from the dealer listing. Either way he was clearly ignoring me until i provided him with his real name, address, and criminal record.
Just a warning to others...
https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1253516
It was originally way underpriced at $62,500. I contacted the seller and he said he's now at 66,500. While on the phone the price becomes 70,000. Ok, whatever, still a good deal.
I found the car (same VIN #) listed online at a dealer in the area a few days later. Seller ignored my text messages until i told him my police officer brother found his REAL name, address, and that he'd been arrested twice. Seller responded and returned my deposit only after i threatened to have him arrested for a third time. I recommend banning this criminal from the forum. Apparently he was "just about to get a hold of me"
I don't know if this guy even owned the car. Or was just trying to hustle me with pictures from the dealer listing. Either way he was clearly ignoring me until i provided him with his real name, address, and criminal record.
Just a warning to others...
Last edited by thelampire; 06-06-2021 at 07:05 PM.