Originally Posted by Robert Linton

For what I am about to write, you will probably stone me, or at least ban me from this forum. The 991 Turbo is a great car, in engineering, in performance and in looks -- I have one. To put anything less than a perfect part on it, particularly on its exterior, is, in my opinion, not only a mistake but cheapens the car. In small quantities (i.e., less than 100 sets), the cost of these vents, including as reasonable 20% margin, should be between $1200 and $1400 each, i.e., $2400 - $2800 a set. Additionally, to do the measuring, design, engineering, make the mold tools, etc., without which you cannot produce excellent parts, is likely an upfront investment of $12,000 - $15,000. The vendor in this case is attempting to buy its way into a market, gambling, candidly, correctly, that most customers do not know the difference between first class quality and what, in reality, is poor -- it is more than just a poor fit, e.g., looks like resin rich pockets, bad cloth layup, etc. To be sure, you or they can, possibly, jury rig the fit, but it will never be a good part. Indeed, if an engineer handed me one of those vents, I'd take a hammer to it. I'd much rather have the black plastic vents than poorly fitting and poorly looking carbon fiber versions. If you really want a proper part, buy the Porsche vents. As to these Carbonlution things, I'd put them in the circular file.

P.S. For years people ask me why I have never sold parts to retail customers? The answer is simple, most customers do not know the difference between outstanding and, if they are lucky, barely OK, and therefore are unwilling to pay for the former. Further, as my mother said, people's (i.e., Porsche owners) eyes are often bigger than their stomachs. Guys if you willing to spend significant funds on car as wonderful as a Porsche Turbo, this is not the time to become parsimonious, especially when a relatively small amount would buy glory.

Originally Posted by Robert Linton

For what I am about to write, you will probably stone me, or at least ban me from this forum. The 991 Turbo is a great car, in engineering, in performance and in looks -- I have one. To put anything less than a perfect part on it, particularly on its exterior, is, in my opinion, not only a mistake but cheapens the car. In small quantities (i.e., less than 100 sets), the cost of these vents, including as reasonable 20% margin, should be between $1200 and $1400 each, i.e., $2400 - $2800 a set. Additionally, to do the measuring, design, engineering, make the mold tools, etc., without which you cannot produce excellent parts, is likely an upfront investment of $12,000 - $15,000. The vendor in this case is attempting to buy its way into a market, gambling, candidly, correctly, that most customers do not know the difference between first class quality and what, in reality, is poor -- it is more than just a poor fit, e.g., looks like resin rich pockets, bad cloth layup, etc. To be sure, you or they can, possibly, jury rig the fit, but it will never be a good part. Indeed, if an engineer handed me one of those vents, I'd take a hammer to it. I'd much rather have the black plastic vents than poorly fitting and poorly looking carbon fiber versions. If you really want a proper part, buy the Porsche vents. As to these Carbonlution things, I'd put them in the circular file.

P.S. For years people ask me why I have never sold parts to retail customers? The answer is simple, most customers do not know the difference between outstanding and, if they are lucky, barely OK, and therefore are unwilling to pay for the former. Further, as my mother said, people's (i.e., Porsche owners) eyes are often bigger than their stomachs. Guys if you willing to spend significant funds on car as wonderful as a Porsche Turbo, this is not the time to become parsimonious, especially when a relatively small amount would buy glory.

Originally Posted by Robert Linton

Why do you want GT3RS size vents?

Originally Posted by Robert Linton

For what I am about to write, you will probably stone me, or at least ban me from this forum. The 991 Turbo is a great car, in engineering, in performance and in looks -- I have one. To put anything less than a perfect part on it, particularly on its exterior, is, in my opinion, not only a mistake but cheapens the car. In small quantities (i.e., less than 100 sets), the cost of these vents, including as reasonable 20% margin, should be between $1200 and $1400 each, i.e., $2400 - $2800 a set. Additionally, to do the measuring, design, engineering, make the mold tools, etc., without which you cannot produce excellent parts, is likely an upfront investment of $12,000 - $15,000. The vendor in this case is attempting to buy its way into a market, gambling, candidly, correctly, that most customers do not know the difference between first class quality and what, in reality, is poor -- it is more than just a poor fit, e.g., looks like resin rich pockets, bad cloth layup, etc. To be sure, you or they can, possibly, jury rig the fit, but it will never be a good part. Indeed, if an engineer handed me one of those vents, I'd take a hammer to it. I'd much rather have the black plastic vents than poorly fitting and poorly looking carbon fiber versions. If you really want a proper part, buy the Porsche vents. As to these Carbonlution things, I'd put them in the circular file.

P.S. For years people ask me why I have never sold parts to retail customers? The answer is simple, most customers do not know the difference between outstanding and, if they are lucky, barely OK, and therefore are unwilling to pay for the former. Further, as my mother said, people's (i.e., Porsche owners) eyes are often bigger than their stomachs. Guys if you willing to spend significant funds on car as wonderful as a Porsche Turbo, this is not the time to become parsimonious, especially when a relatively small amount would buy glory.

Originally Posted by Penn4S

The GT3RS vent is a perfect fit and OEM but not carbon. I chose to do these. If I wanted carbon ones I would go DB Carbon. The prices are frightening but the quality (same weave and color as OEM) and fit usually perfect. They have the 2RS side vents for $2500 a pair to fit our TTS cars. Like I said not cheap but beautiful.
Bought my rear carbon valance from them for my TTS and a bunch of interior carbon for a previous 4S all perfect fit.


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Originally Posted by Robert Linton

To get them truly "right", Carbonlution will need to remake them the right way, which can only be done at a financial loss to them. If you are happy with yours, that is good and all that is necessary for you. If I put them on my car, I could not avoid constantly looking at them as if they were a puss filled wart that didn't belong on a Porsche.

Originally Posted by Robert Linton

I suspect that I and other knowledgeable people would see the difference without a microscope or a telescope, but if you do not, and that is good enough for you, amen. For me, however, far too much of an ask to have a decidedly second rate part on my first rate Porsche.

Originally Posted by Robert Linton

I suspect that I and other knowledgeable people would see the difference without a microscope or a telescope, but if you do not, and that is good enough for you, amen. For me, however, far too much of an ask to have a decidedly second rate part on my first rate Porsche.