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#6661
I have several Porsches and would like to have some variety. I'm thinking about getting a 570 GT as a road car. Good idea? Bad idea? How is the reliability and maintenance/repair cost? The car is a 2018 with about 8k miles and asking price is $165k; seems like it already has significant depreciation, but how much more depreciation might it experience? How does it compare with say a 991.2 TTS or 992 TTS? This would be my first ever McLaren, and I've kind of wanted one for years.
#6662
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#6663
Nearest McLaren dealers are 1.5 to 2 hours away. The car I'm considering is a consignment sale at a local auto shop which specializes in high-end cars. They have a sizable service department and currently service about 10 local McLarens. Will ask about the extended warranty.
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#6665
Hi @Manifold I was in your shoes 6 months ago, test drove 570s, 570gt, and then someone suggested I try a 650s and I fell in love with it, esp. spyder variant. The suspension is very comfortable in normal, and the engine is an absolute beast. More peaky and powerful emotional than 570. I would recommend you have your first experience with a certified Mclaren from a dealer and pay the yearly warranty for peace of mind. My car has been reliable without issues but expenses are 2-3 times greater than for gt cars.
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#6666
The warranty will only come from Mclaren, and they will have to certify the car to verify the car is sound before selling the warranty. As some have said it’s about 4500.00 per year, and a little cheaper if you get 2 years. All work and approvals has to be done by the dealer. From my experience I’d buy from a dealer only that certified the car if out of factory warranty. Good luck ….
#6667
I have several Porsches and would like to have some variety. I'm thinking about getting a 570 GT as a road car. Good idea? Bad idea? How is the reliability and maintenance/repair cost? The car is a 2018 with about 8k miles and asking price is $165k; seems like it already has significant depreciation, but how much more depreciation might it experience? How does it compare with say a 991.2 TTS or 992 TTS? This would be my first ever McLaren, and I've kind of wanted one for years.
#6668
this is a good forum for your research:
https://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/p...ren-675lt.178/
I have a 675 and as much as I love my RS, its no match for the 675 as fun car to drive
https://www.mclarenlife.com/forums/p...ren-675lt.178/
I have a 675 and as much as I love my RS, its no match for the 675 as fun car to drive
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#6669
I would further add, as much as he can be annoying Jayemm has a nice YouTube video of 650S, as do the throttle house guys (hilarious)...
650S is part of the SuperCar series vs. SportCar (570's)... accordingly more expensive and yearly extended warranty is closer to $5500 for 570's and $7500 for 650's.
Would love 675LT but part of the appeal of the 650S is in normal mode it's quite comfortable and mild mannered and can turn into beast mode, so on rough roads and daily conditions may be more flexible vs. the LT's which seemed to be more RS like... 675LT Spyder is about 2X price of 650S Spyder
Of course, the 600LT is tons of fun given the upwards directed flame spewing exhaust...
650S is part of the SuperCar series vs. SportCar (570's)... accordingly more expensive and yearly extended warranty is closer to $5500 for 570's and $7500 for 650's.
Would love 675LT but part of the appeal of the 650S is in normal mode it's quite comfortable and mild mannered and can turn into beast mode, so on rough roads and daily conditions may be more flexible vs. the LT's which seemed to be more RS like... 675LT Spyder is about 2X price of 650S Spyder
Of course, the 600LT is tons of fun given the upwards directed flame spewing exhaust...
Last edited by catdog2; 07-11-2023 at 01:49 PM.
#6670
Here's the comparison between the 650S Spider and 720S Spider: https://karenable.com/mclaren-720s-s...s-650s-spider/
and 570S Spider vs. 650S Spider: https://karenable.com/mclaren-570s-s...s-650s-spider/
and 570S Spider vs. 650S Spider: https://karenable.com/mclaren-570s-s...s-650s-spider/
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Did another long and spirited drive of the 570 GT today. I like it. Driving it has a sense of occasion.
- Acceleration is very strong once the turbos spool up. I don't mind the lag, just makes the engine feel linear.
- Handling is at least as good as any of the my Porsches, and the car is playful. It has the sport package, which I think means it has the stiffer 570S springs? Turns in really well and easy to dance with the car in corners. Ride quality is better than the Porsches.
- Sound is good, different from all of my Porsches, and has a race car vibe. It has sport exhaust.
- Brake pedal feel is different from the Porsches. Significant pedal pressure is needed to move the pedal before the brakes engage(stiff spring?), then substantial pedal pressure is needed to slow the car. Reminds me of a race car.
- Visibility from the front is good, toward the rear is mediocre, towards the rear quarter panels (blind spot) is poor.
- Ergonomics aren't as good as Porsches. I don't love the seats.
MSRP on the car was $250k in 2018, and asking price is $165k with no CPO or extended warranty. It's a fairly lavish build.
The car has had regular servicing, and hasn't needed any repairs other than replacing the battery twice and addressing a small oil leak. Condition of the car is pretty much new, and tires were replaced in 2021.
The car is local to me, and I'm leaning towards buying it.
I understand that there's some risk without a warranty, but I'm not going to be tracking the car, and the car hasn't really had any issues for the past 4.5 years, so maybe that makes it unlikely that the car will need costly repairs over the next few years? Do I need to do a PPI?
- Acceleration is very strong once the turbos spool up. I don't mind the lag, just makes the engine feel linear.
- Handling is at least as good as any of the my Porsches, and the car is playful. It has the sport package, which I think means it has the stiffer 570S springs? Turns in really well and easy to dance with the car in corners. Ride quality is better than the Porsches.
- Sound is good, different from all of my Porsches, and has a race car vibe. It has sport exhaust.
- Brake pedal feel is different from the Porsches. Significant pedal pressure is needed to move the pedal before the brakes engage(stiff spring?), then substantial pedal pressure is needed to slow the car. Reminds me of a race car.
- Visibility from the front is good, toward the rear is mediocre, towards the rear quarter panels (blind spot) is poor.
- Ergonomics aren't as good as Porsches. I don't love the seats.
MSRP on the car was $250k in 2018, and asking price is $165k with no CPO or extended warranty. It's a fairly lavish build.
The car has had regular servicing, and hasn't needed any repairs other than replacing the battery twice and addressing a small oil leak. Condition of the car is pretty much new, and tires were replaced in 2021.
The car is local to me, and I'm leaning towards buying it.
I understand that there's some risk without a warranty, but I'm not going to be tracking the car, and the car hasn't really had any issues for the past 4.5 years, so maybe that makes it unlikely that the car will need costly repairs over the next few years? Do I need to do a PPI?
Last edited by Manifold; 07-11-2023 at 03:43 PM.
#6672
I understand that there's some risk without a warranty, but I'm not going to be tracking the car, and the car hasn't really had any issues for the past 4.5 years, so maybe that makes it unlikely that the car will need costly repairs over the next few years? Do I need to do a PPI?
#6673
Did another long and spirited drive of the 570 GT today. I like it. Driving it has a sense of occasion.
- Acceleration is very strong once the turbos spool up. I don't mind the lag, just makes the engine feel linear.
- Handling is at least as good as any of the my Porsches, and the car is playful. It has the sport package, which I think means it has the stiffer 570S springs? Turns in really well and easy to dance with the car in corners. Ride quality is better than the Porsches.
- Sound is good, different from all of my Porsches, and has a race car vibe. It has sport exhaust.
- Brake pedal feel is different from the Porsches. Significant pedal pressure is needed to move the pedal before the brakes engage(stiff spring?), then substantial pedal pressure is needed to slow the car. Reminds me of a race car.
- Visibility from the front is good, toward the rear is mediocre, towards the rear quarter panels (blind spot) is poor.
- Ergonomics aren't as good as Porsches. I don't love the seats.
MSRP on the car was $250k in 2018, and asking price is $165k with no CPO or extended warranty. It's a fairly lavish build.
The car has had regular servicing, and hasn't needed any repairs other than replacing the battery twice and addressing a small oil leak. Condition of the car is pretty much new, and tires were replaced in 2021.
The car is local to me, and I'm leaning towards buying it.
I understand that there's some risk without a warranty, but I'm not going to be tracking the car, and the car hasn't really had any issues for the past 4.5 years, so maybe that makes it unlikely that the car will need costly repairs over the next few years? Do I need to do a PPI?
- Acceleration is very strong once the turbos spool up. I don't mind the lag, just makes the engine feel linear.
- Handling is at least as good as any of the my Porsches, and the car is playful. It has the sport package, which I think means it has the stiffer 570S springs? Turns in really well and easy to dance with the car in corners. Ride quality is better than the Porsches.
- Sound is good, different from all of my Porsches, and has a race car vibe. It has sport exhaust.
- Brake pedal feel is different from the Porsches. Significant pedal pressure is needed to move the pedal before the brakes engage(stiff spring?), then substantial pedal pressure is needed to slow the car. Reminds me of a race car.
- Visibility from the front is good, toward the rear is mediocre, towards the rear quarter panels (blind spot) is poor.
- Ergonomics aren't as good as Porsches. I don't love the seats.
MSRP on the car was $250k in 2018, and asking price is $165k with no CPO or extended warranty. It's a fairly lavish build.
The car has had regular servicing, and hasn't needed any repairs other than replacing the battery twice and addressing a small oil leak. Condition of the car is pretty much new, and tires were replaced in 2021.
The car is local to me, and I'm leaning towards buying it.
I understand that there's some risk without a warranty, but I'm not going to be tracking the car, and the car hasn't really had any issues for the past 4.5 years, so maybe that makes it unlikely that the car will need costly repairs over the next few years? Do I need to do a PPI?
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I think the two owners didn't drive the car for long stretches and didn't use the battery maintainer.
Last edited by Manifold; 07-11-2023 at 04:29 PM.
#6675
No sir! See if you can negotiate they pay for a one year warranty, and the MAC dealer basically can do the PPI to certify it’s valid for a warranty. Sounds like a good car, but it’s still a used McLaren with limited people that can work on it. I’d say the same for Ferrari as I had one of those do, repairs are just a different ball game than working on a Porsche. Either way good luck.
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