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Old 11-24-2020, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Biggest issue I've had with a 720S on track is heat soak.

Don't know if that same issue affects the 600LT, but I would imagine it does given how McLaren uses its intercoolers for its turbos. It's why lots of McLaren owners will upgrade their intercoolers if they intend to track their cars regularly, and heavily.
ipse, I see the Pista in your avatar. Can you speak to the degree to which they heat soak vs. Ferrari, Porsche, and AMG?

I think the 720's aero is so unique (and cool) that I imagine there isn't much room for additional venting so upgraded hardware or a more different tune seem to be the options on the table.
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Originally Posted by enduro911
ipse, I see the Pista in your avatar. Can you speak to the degree to which they heat soak vs. Ferrari, Porsche, and AMG?

I think the 720's aero is so unique (and cool) that I imagine there isn't much room for additional venting so upgraded hardware or a more different tune seem to be the options on the table.
I've done multiple track sessions in my 991 GT3 in rather extreme conditions (think 120F air temp and who knows what temp on track), and the GT3 handled everything like a champ. Lap after lap and its only response was "mother, may I have another please."

I've done two track days in my Pista (same track and conditions as the GT3), no heat soak whatsoever. Same with my 488.
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In terms of reliability, I just posted up a blog updating on the reliability history of the multiple McLarens we have owned over the past 10 years: https://karenable.com/mclarens-relia...v-2020-update/

thanks for the link

the problem is that I use my sport cars really hard. so for me it is of vital importance that the car is reliable when is pushed extremely hard.
Old 11-24-2020, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I've done multiple track sessions in my 991 GT3 in rather extreme conditions (think 120F air temp and who knows what temp on track), and the GT3 handled everything like a champ. Lap after lap and its only response was "mother, may I have another please."

I've done two track days in my Pista (same track and conditions as the GT3), no heat soak whatsoever. Same with my 488.

From what I understand it is naive from my side to expect similar reliability from either 600LT or 720s on a race track as I do have with my GT3?
Is this correct?
Old 11-24-2020, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kart driver
From what I understand it is naive from my side to expect similar reliability from either 600LT or 720s on a race track as I do have with my GT3?
Is this correct?
I don't know why you wouldn't
Old 11-24-2020, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kart driver
thanks for the link

the problem is that I use my sport cars really hard. so for me it is of vital importance that the car is reliable when is pushed extremely hard.
We did over 1000 miles in a day in the 675LT Spider and it never missed a beat.
Old 11-24-2020, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kart driver
From what I understand it is naive from my side to expect similar reliability from either 600LT or 720s on a race track as I do have with my GT3?
Is this correct?

If you track often, are gonna track just 1 car, stick with a Porsche GT variant. If you have the budget for a second track car, perhaps add a Mclaren of the LT variety.

Ive owned all the new Porsche GT varieties and a 718 Clubsport MR and all have been bullet proof and are an impossible benchmark to hold smaller British manufacturers to.

My current primary track car is a Dundon 991.2 3RS and my secondary track car is a 675LT. Perfect and complimentary pair.
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Originally Posted by kkabba
If you track often, are gonna track just 1 car, stick with a Porsche GT variant. If you have the budget for a second track car, perhaps add a Mclaren of the LT variety.

Ive owned all the new Porsche GT varieties and a 718 Clubsport MR and all have been bullet proof and are an impossible benchmark to hold smaller British manufacturers to.

My current primary track car is a Dundon 991.2 3RS and my secondary track car is a 675LT. Perfect and complimentary pair.

does this mean that in principle the LT versions are more reliable than S when pushed hard?
Old 11-24-2020, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kart driver
does this mean that in principle the LT versions are more reliable than S when pushed hard?
Is a GT3RS more reliable on track than a 911s? If you track "hard" get a factory built track focused car - and if you can swing it consider a factory built race car for safety and reliability.
Old 11-24-2020, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kkabba
Is a GT3RS more reliable on track than a 911s? If you track "hard" get a factory built track focused car - and if you can swing it consider a factory built race car for safety and reliability.

I referred to “reliable on a racetrack” just to give an idea of how hard the car will be used. The thing is I am using my sports cars in my daily life pushing it really hard, which is similar to race-track conditions.
And for real race-track duty I definitely use a racing car.
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Originally Posted by kart driver
I referred to “reliable on a racetrack” just to give an idea of how hard the car will be used. The thing is I am using my sports cars in my daily life pushing it really hard, which is similar to race-track conditions.
And for real race-track duty I definitely use a racing car.
Your public roads have similar conditions to a race track and allow you to drive equally hard??

Now I'm intrigued...

Are you in the market for a McLaren or simply curious? Nothing wrong with curiosity but saw your recent post about being in the market for a GT4. I would keep in mind that cracking any of the McLaren carbon exterior parts is obscenely expensive to replace and take a lot of the fun out of it.
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Originally Posted by kart driver
I referred to “reliable on a racetrack” just to give an idea of how hard the car will be used. The thing is I am using my sports cars in my daily life pushing it really hard, which is similar to race-track conditions.
And for real race-track duty I definitely use a racing car.
What do you mean by "racetrack"?

Like wheel-to-wheel racing?

If so, that's out of my league. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by kkabba
Your public roads have similar conditions to a race track and allow you to drive equally hard??

Now I'm intrigued...
Yep ))
That is Eastern part of Europe ))
Poor roads in many places hence that car should be able to withstand it. And there are places with good roads and no other cars around where you can push safely really hard.


Originally Posted by kkabba
Now I'm intrigued...

Are you in the market for a McLaren or simply curious? Nothing wrong with curiosity but saw your recent post about being in the market for a GT4. I would keep in mind that cracking any of the McLaren carbon exterior parts is obscenely expensive to replace and take a lot of the fun out of it.
GT4 is to replace the M2 competition in case my wife is OK with that as the M2 is her car and I drive it very rarely.

McLaren or any other alternative is unlikely to happen by the end of 2021 given the economic decline but I will definitely not be able to resist buying something new for more than 3 years. So 2022 is guaranteed that money is spent for something like McLaren or alternative

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Old 11-26-2020, 05:49 PM
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Skip to @13:15 if you're too bored to watch the whole thing.


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Old 11-26-2020, 08:34 PM
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Nice car. Those are impressive numbers, wow. Almost sounds similar to a super bike and runs through the gears just as quick.


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