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Old 08-02-2021, 04:12 PM
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I drove a 600LT for the first time last week. Moderate street driving, nothing crazy, but holy hell am I now sold on this car! It feels just as connected and raw as an RS but the power band is bonkers, and the carbon tub really makes it feel special and like you're sitting in a race car. Sure, you don't have the same top end scream as the NA Flat 6 but the 600LT really made street driving fun at all speeds. In my GT street driving is kind of mundane (which can also be an upside; makes it very daily-able) unless you're pushing it. They both have their place in the garage, but wow was I impressed.
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Old 08-02-2021, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cadster
Ha! Yes, indeed. True enough there would be a delta in running costs, but with the enhanced performance and safety, it just might worth it, no?
I have so many buddies that run different types of cup cars and I'm the only street car DE guy. They hate me when I put pump gas in and get to drive home in the same car. The maintenance costs and service intervals on a full blown race car are insane for DE usage, i have a good spreadsheet all broken down, and it doesn't make financial sense to me going this route unless I wanted to race in the future.

The 600lt or even 620R are good options as my local Mclaren dealer said they would take care of me knowing I would be sticking it to Porsche at all the DE's I run LOL. I asked about inspections and none needed if you buy the 620R which is quite rare. The 600LT would be waived as long as my local shop did the inspections and service work.
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Old 08-02-2021, 04:54 PM
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Luv big M, or should i say small M, in many ways but they got some work to do on quality control, reliability and such before i go back. Ive tracked them and they are a blast.
Old 08-02-2021, 10:28 PM
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So, what do you guy feel about a 2018 Turbo S vs 2018 Mc 600LT?
Old 08-02-2021, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CodyzWorld
So, what do you guy feel about a 2018 Turbo S vs 2018 Mc 600LT?
Different cars, different purposes

Would never cross shop a TTS with a 600LT or any LT. Maybe a 570GT.
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Old 08-03-2021, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Different cars, different purposes

Would never cross shop a TTS with a 600LT or any LT. Maybe a 570GT.
Please clarify, is it because you feel the 600LT is a better track car? I've driven both, own one and seems like a fair question to ask.
Old 08-03-2021, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CodyzWorld
Please clarify, is it because you feel the 600LT is a better track car? I've driven both, own one and seems like a fair question to ask.
the TTS is one of the fastest grand touring cars you can also take onto the track and keep up with track focused street cars.
the 600LT is a road legal track focused car

they serve very different functions. The tts is dailyable, comfortable, and can go Mr Hyde if you want. You can drive it to pick up groceries or whatever and everybody just sees a 911.

the 600LT is a much much better track car. It weighs 500# less. It is not a touring and it is no where near as road trip comfortable. It’s much louder. People see it and go WTF. Maybe you can daily it in Beverly Hills, but …. why.
Old 08-03-2021, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CodyzWorld
Please clarify, is it because you feel the 600LT is a better track car? I've driven both, own one and seems like a fair question to ask.
How did you drive them?

Driven at anywhere 5/10s, the differences will be obvious and this wouldn't be a real question.
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Old 08-03-2021, 12:49 AM
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After my previous post of living with 675lt spider for month, I started to search for a 675lt then a close friend conviced me that 600lt appears to be a viable option. Then I found a 675 but it appears to be in poor condition cosmetically with a cracked rear bumper, so it was passed. I agonized for a while between 675 vs 600 and learned that 600's newer chasis is just as advanced and learned 600's traditional spring/strut chasis also suits my needs. 600lt's BIGGEST advantage I believe is the low weight, it definitely shows on the streets.

On the side note, I sold 2rs and kept 3rs for the sound that emits with Dundon exhaust, pointing out I choose sound over sheer speed. However I feel 600lt acclerates just as fast as 2rs, I have no proof or data but my perception tells me so. Compared to 3rs, 600lt accelerates, brakes, turns-in at a faster tempo so I thoroughly enjoy it so far and it complements 3rs very well. For the downsides, people know about the wind shield cracking problem. I believe my current dislike is that that suspension travel/droop is very limited, so over medium bumps or extended length of undulating surfaces, the car jumps/hops/skips overs bumps instead of absorbing them, suspension tuning needded but most likely leaving it alone. OEM metal shift paddles are a bit short, so extended carbon one wil be added. I also have my eyes on some unobtanium inconel exhaust parts but that is down the road. Last but not least, Senna seats are a must, and make sure they are the larger "Touring" variant.

End of story, 600lt parked in garage.

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Old 08-03-2021, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by blindfold
After my previous post of living with 675lt spider for month, I started to search for a 675lt then a close friend conviced me that 600lt appears to be a viable option. Then I found a 675 but it appears to be in poor condition cosmetically with a cracked rear bumper, so it was passed. I agonized for a while between 675 vs 600 and learned that 600's newer chasis is just as advanced and learned 600's traditional spring/strut chasis also suits my needs. 600lt's BIGGEST advantage I believe is the low weight, it definitely shows on the streets.

On the side note, I sold 2rs and kept 3rs for the sound that emits with Dundon exhaust, pointing out I choose sound over sheer speed. However I feel 600lt acclerates just as fast as 2rs, I have no proof or data but my perception tells me so. Compared to 3rs, 600lt accelerates, brakes, turns-in at a faster tempo so I thoroughly enjoy it so far and it complements 3rs very well. For the downsides, people know about the wind shield cracking problem. I believe my current dislike is that that suspension travel/droop is very limited, so over medium bumps or extended length of undulating surfaces, the car jumps/hops/skips overs bumpers instead of absorbing them, suspension tuning needded but most likely leaving it alone. OEM metal shift paddles are a bit short, so extended carbon one wil be added. I also have my eyes on some unobtanium inconel exhaust parts but that is down the road. Last but not least, Senna seats are a must, and make sure they are the larger "Touring" variant.

End of story, 600lt parked in garage.
Congrats! Love hearing good things about the 600LT, especially from someone with Porsche GT experience.
Old 08-03-2021, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
How did you drive them?

Driven at anywhere 5/10s, the differences will be obvious and this wouldn't be a real question.
I own a 991.2 TTS and I've driven my friends 600LT in the Malibu canyons.
I also own a GTR Nismo and have owned a 720S. (sold for reliability problems)
Having a rough riding car doesn't bother me a bit.

I'd say I drove my friends car 6/10 cuz it just wasnt my car. I usually drive my cars 8/10 when I want to feel fast.
I'm just merely asking a question, is there a problem?


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Old 08-03-2021, 11:15 AM
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Number of people I know that gave their M's up is over 60%. Big issue is McLaren doesn't care, doesn't help, etc. That said, also have a couple buddies with reasonably solid cars... Only reasonably.

600LT vs 2rs vs 3rs vs 765lt, if I could have it track maintained and no issue I would have the 765lt but unrealistic and that is why the 2rs sits in the garage with no issues so far and hopefully won't but eventually will.
Old 08-03-2021, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by M3the01
Number of people I know that gave their M's up is over 60%. Big issue is McLaren doesn't care, doesn't help, etc. That said, also have a couple buddies with reasonably solid cars... Only reasonably.

600LT vs 2rs vs 3rs vs 765lt, if I could have it track maintained and no issue I would have the 765lt but unrealistic and that is why the 2rs sits in the garage with no issues so far and hopefully won't but eventually will.
Some good points but sad Mclaren dealers work like this.

I know my local dealer well as the guys use to work for Porsche and other places, they know I am interested and confirmed Track pre and post inspections to be done myself or via my local track support shop. I told them this would be a deal breaker if they mandated that the car always goes back to them and they confirmed they have a few customers who do their own work for track use. The dealer themselves rent out tracks for experience days and encouraged track use, i guess not all dealers are the same.

I guess if you buy the Mclaren from the same dealer you get to know, some flexibility is thrown in.
Old 08-03-2021, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by M3the01
Number of people I know that gave their M's up is over 60%. Big issue is McLaren doesn't care, doesn't help, etc. That said, also have a couple buddies with reasonably solid cars... Only reasonably.

600LT vs 2rs vs 3rs vs 765lt, if I could have it track maintained and no issue I would have the 765lt but unrealistic and that is why the 2rs sits in the garage with no issues so far and hopefully won't but eventually will.
I've owned two Macs (currently 720S, previously 570S) and that hasn't been my experience at all. Both have been solid (total 5 years/25k miles) and my local dealer (McLaren SF) is simply terrific to work with, both sales and service. I hear the horror stories on the forums but my experience and those of my Mac buddies does not fit your description in any way.
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Old 08-03-2021, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary(SF)
I've owned two Macs (currently 720S, previously 570S) and that hasn't been my experience at all. Both have been solid (total 5 years/25k miles) and my local dealer (McLaren SF) is simply terrific to work with, both sales and service. I hear the horror stories on the forums but my experience and those of my Mac buddies does not fit your description in any way.
Hey Gary, you definitely have a good dealer and know McLaren SF well and been to a few of their events local at Laguna and COTA. Im not sure what i would do though, planning, spending money on insurance, track fee's, hotels and going home repeatedly after a session, two or day with issues and this seems to be more frequent than not for those that i know. From wheel locks, steering wheel issues, injector, missing random exterior pieces, to limp modes, etc it just sucks to be in that situation. Even at the McLaren factory events almost all the cars were in limp mode and they just said not to worry about it, that was back in 2019 and they have fixed much of those issues but still. I absolutely luv the 765LT and it seems to be doing a lot better than the 720s so fingers crossed most of the issues have been worked out.

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