McLaren Success
#6077
Billy Johnson weighs in on the 600LT at Buttonwillow. I know he drove a Senna on the same day and will surely post a video of that later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid...ature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid...ature=youtu.be
#6078
9.3 is amazing stock. Let's not discretit Brooks either, he is a great driver with tons of experience.
#6079
he”ll have a couple of more videos from this past Sunday.
he reset the record with the same 600 Lt by one second (1:45.6) and then a few hours later he reset it again with the senna .
the lowest a gt3rs has done is a 1:49 in the same configuration (13cw)
he reset the record with the same 600 Lt by one second (1:45.6) and then a few hours later he reset it again with the senna .
the lowest a gt3rs has done is a 1:49 in the same configuration (13cw)
#6080
Not surprised, bigger tracks favor mclarens (hp). Smaller tracks favor gt3 (grip). I just with Mclarem wasn't so **** requiring a $500 pre and $500 post track inspection....
#6081
officially track inspections are required . Unofficially it’s a bit different . The typical person who tracks the odd time will not know how to check their oil , tread on tires or if they have enough brake pad left . (They may drive several thousand miles between track days and not have the latest software updates, etc).
a person who tracks frequently would know how to check these things or have other knowledgeable people looking at their cars.
the track inspection that dealers do is almost identical to the track inspection checklist that we sign with organizers at a typical track day .
#6082
buttonwillow doesn’t favor higher horsepower cars . It’s more of a momentum track. A lot of throttle manipulation is required with anything above 500 horsepower . (He drove my senna and I was managing the throttle on probably 80% of the track )
officially track inspections are required . Unofficially it’s a bit different . The typical person who tracks the odd time will not know how to check their oil , tread on tires or if they have enough brake pad left . (They may drive several thousand miles between track days and not have the latest software updates, etc).
a person who tracks frequently would know how to check these things or have other knowledgeable people looking at their cars.
the track inspection that dealers do is almost identical to the track inspection checklist that we sign with organizers at a typical track day .
officially track inspections are required . Unofficially it’s a bit different . The typical person who tracks the odd time will not know how to check their oil , tread on tires or if they have enough brake pad left . (They may drive several thousand miles between track days and not have the latest software updates, etc).
a person who tracks frequently would know how to check these things or have other knowledgeable people looking at their cars.
the track inspection that dealers do is almost identical to the track inspection checklist that we sign with organizers at a typical track day .
That isn't the point, if you tank your engine at the track and haven't done a pre purchase inspection it is likely they will void your warranty. A good friend of mine was the service manager at Mclaren Tampa and would tell me horror stories from corporate denying warranty claims. Just sharing my real world experience. This is an element where Porsche would shine as they are harder pressed to deny warranty claims from track use...
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#6083
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#6084
I'm not denying someone who regularly tracks a mclaren can perform basic tasks such as checking oil, brakes, ect.
That isn't the point, if you tank your engine at the track and haven't done a pre purchase inspection it is likely they will void your warranty. A good friend of mine was the service manager at Mclaren Tampa and would tell me horror stories from corporate denying warranty claims. Just sharing my real world experience. This is an element where Porsche would shine as they are harder pressed to deny warranty claims from track use...
That isn't the point, if you tank your engine at the track and haven't done a pre purchase inspection it is likely they will void your warranty. A good friend of mine was the service manager at Mclaren Tampa and would tell me horror stories from corporate denying warranty claims. Just sharing my real world experience. This is an element where Porsche would shine as they are harder pressed to deny warranty claims from track use...
#6085
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Originally Posted by FLGT
Maybe a stupid question on my part - how would Mclaren know if you were at the track with your car when a problem happened?
#6086
While I certainly don't endorse that, seems like it would be hard for Mclaren to prove where you were when something occurred. The fact that they even try, is as bit disconcerting to me.
#6087
Maybe the car logs it's GPS location when it detects engine failure?
In any case, it seems Mac does engage in some interesting tactics. For example, I know they have people monitoring social media to try and find and flag VINs to void warranties on cars that have had modifications.
In any case, it seems Mac does engage in some interesting tactics. For example, I know they have people monitoring social media to try and find and flag VINs to void warranties on cars that have had modifications.
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#6088
Maybe the car logs it's GPS location when it detects engine failure?
In any case, it seems Mac does engage in some interesting tactics. For example, I know they have people monitoring social media to try and find and flag VINs to void warranties on cars that have had modifications.
In any case, it seems Mac does engage in some interesting tactics. For example, I know they have people monitoring social media to try and find and flag VINs to void warranties on cars that have had modifications.
Using car's GPS datalog seems like it would be relatively easier, if they are wanting to find exclusions.
Big corporations watching you...
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#6089
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Originally Posted by FLGT
I have some acquaintances who drive on the street, as if they were on the track...
While I certainly don't endorse that, seems like it would be hard for Mclaren to prove where you were when something occurred. The fact that they even try, is as bit disconcerting to me.
While I certainly don't endorse that, seems like it would be hard for Mclaren to prove where you were when something occurred. The fact that they even try, is as bit disconcerting to me.
#6090
I've bought 9 mclaren's. I've tracked all of them. I currently have 3 of them (senna/p1/600 LT). All except one was purchased from my local and servicing dealer.
I track frequently at tracks all around California. I, pretty much know the many mclaren owners who track their cars locally, around the country and worldwide (I have a lot of mclaren owners follow me on instagram). They do NOT do the track inspections each and every track day. However, they are knowledgeable or have other knowledgeable people look at their cars. They do not do 15 track days and then have someone examine their cars. The things that can go wrong with the cars would NOT be discovered in a track inspection. However, things that could go wrong that would have been discovered in a track inspection (normal tech sheet), then you could get in trouble if those specific things failed.
The track inspections cost more because they do a brake flush every time (not really required every time you do a track inspection but that is what they do).
It is true that they do monitor social media, car forums, etc., to determine modifications to a car (not tires/brakes) but rather, lowering your car, having oversized wheels, tunes, etc. This will get you in trouble with the warranty. They are not the only manufacture who does this (especially if a person is going to try to lemon a car)
Mclaren is the only manufacture that warranties each and every road car for track use. The others don't (porsche/lambo/ferrari). Ferrari and Lambo only warranty on the respective dealer or manufacture track days. Other manufactures only warranty track use for specific cars and not blanket all cars.
Manufactures are obviously interested when a part does fail. If it is something they don't see often then they want to know what they are dealing with (possible recalls, manufacture communications, etc.). If they start seeing one off's then they start digging to see why it may have failed in your specific car. If it is related to track use and you never had any track inspections or track inspections would have remedied the situation then you can expect to have issues. (nothing different then any other manufacture).
When something does go wrong then one of the first questions they ask the tech is whether has had track inspections. If you purchased your car from the servicing dealer then you will be on the right side of the decision.
Note: Many people who track Mclarens are not near a local dealer.
The cars do store a lot of data. Google mclaren owners handbook and it will state what type of data is stored and how it can be used. (I don't think this is any different than any other manufactures).
I track frequently at tracks all around California. I, pretty much know the many mclaren owners who track their cars locally, around the country and worldwide (I have a lot of mclaren owners follow me on instagram). They do NOT do the track inspections each and every track day. However, they are knowledgeable or have other knowledgeable people look at their cars. They do not do 15 track days and then have someone examine their cars. The things that can go wrong with the cars would NOT be discovered in a track inspection. However, things that could go wrong that would have been discovered in a track inspection (normal tech sheet), then you could get in trouble if those specific things failed.
The track inspections cost more because they do a brake flush every time (not really required every time you do a track inspection but that is what they do).
It is true that they do monitor social media, car forums, etc., to determine modifications to a car (not tires/brakes) but rather, lowering your car, having oversized wheels, tunes, etc. This will get you in trouble with the warranty. They are not the only manufacture who does this (especially if a person is going to try to lemon a car)
Mclaren is the only manufacture that warranties each and every road car for track use. The others don't (porsche/lambo/ferrari). Ferrari and Lambo only warranty on the respective dealer or manufacture track days. Other manufactures only warranty track use for specific cars and not blanket all cars.
Manufactures are obviously interested when a part does fail. If it is something they don't see often then they want to know what they are dealing with (possible recalls, manufacture communications, etc.). If they start seeing one off's then they start digging to see why it may have failed in your specific car. If it is related to track use and you never had any track inspections or track inspections would have remedied the situation then you can expect to have issues. (nothing different then any other manufacture).
When something does go wrong then one of the first questions they ask the tech is whether has had track inspections. If you purchased your car from the servicing dealer then you will be on the right side of the decision.
Note: Many people who track Mclarens are not near a local dealer.
The cars do store a lot of data. Google mclaren owners handbook and it will state what type of data is stored and how it can be used. (I don't think this is any different than any other manufactures).