McLaren Success
10-18-2020, 02:12 PM
#5851
Rennlist Member
Thanks all for the comments. I am definitely going to post something regarding the comparison between the two.
Love the looks of the 765LT, and was offered a build. I told them I would think about it, but I doubt they will save it for me (nor should they). I will keep you all posted.
Love the looks of the 765LT, and was offered a build. I told them I would think about it, but I doubt they will save it for me (nor should they). I will keep you all posted.
10-18-2020, 02:23 PM
#5852
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
Looking forward to ticking off the McLaren box with a 675LT, which I will end up taking delivery of next week.
Will I like it more than my GT3RS? I don't know.
Right now, my GT3RS was THE car. However, I told myself after reading these forums and learning from many of you who have far more vehicles/money than I have, that you need to experience them first hand and make the decision yourself. As a result, I decided I would buy a lambo, ferrari, and mclaren and see how they all compare to the GT3RS. I will be learning that over the next few years.
In the end, I think we all agree, drive the car that gets you excited. Lots of (well-received) opinions out there. For me, the rawer the car, the better,
Thanks to all of you who continue to offer insight on many different makes/models, as it helps many of us out quite a bit in figuring out their next car purchase.
Will I like it more than my GT3RS? I don't know.
Right now, my GT3RS was THE car. However, I told myself after reading these forums and learning from many of you who have far more vehicles/money than I have, that you need to experience them first hand and make the decision yourself. As a result, I decided I would buy a lambo, ferrari, and mclaren and see how they all compare to the GT3RS. I will be learning that over the next few years.
In the end, I think we all agree, drive the car that gets you excited. Lots of (well-received) opinions out there. For me, the rawer the car, the better,
Thanks to all of you who continue to offer insight on many different makes/models, as it helps many of us out quite a bit in figuring out their next car purchase.
You will enjoy the speed delivery on the 675LT, and under hard braking with the active aero the wing goes full 90 degrees planting the car to a stop. You have to be very careful as 100 mph comes very fast, and with the weight being sub 2900 lbs it’s steers like a go-cart. I’ve had my LT since last summer, and sold my RS in AUG because I always picked up the LT keys. Solved the Porsche itch with a speedster, and I can always find a RS if needed one it’s a fantastic car.
I’ve had zero issues with my 675, and the car just feels special and it’s an exotic bottom line there/I like it better than the 720S hands down. It’s not always about speed, it’s the feel and it’s just raw if that’s what you crave. I’ve had a lot of cars, and honestly for me it’s the best I’ve driven. The Speedster is right there too a open top GT3 basically with the best manual I’ve ever shifted. Looks like I will be saving some cash on cars for awhile because these two keep me busy. Enjoy and be safe.
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10-18-2020, 07:01 PM
#5853
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You will enjoy the speed delivery on the 675LT, and under hard braking with the active aero the wing goes fill 90 degrees planting the car a stop. You have to be very careful as 100 mph comes very fast, and with the weigh being sub 2900 lbs it’s steers like a go-cart. I’ve had my LT since last summer, and sold my RS in AUG because I always picked up the LT keys. Solved the Porsche itch with a speedster, and I can always find a RS if needed one it’s a fantastic car.
I’ve had zero issues with my 675, and the car just feels special and it’s an exotic bottom line there/I like it better than the 720S hands down. It’s not always about speed, it’s the feel and it’s just raw if that’s what you crave. I’ve had a lot of cars, and honestly for me it’s the best I’ve driven. The Speedster is right there too a open top GT3 basically with the best manual I’ve ever shifted. Looks like I will be saving some cash on cars for awhile because these two keep me busy. Enjoy and be safe.
I’ve had zero issues with my 675, and the car just feels special and it’s an exotic bottom line there/I like it better than the 720S hands down. It’s not always about speed, it’s the feel and it’s just raw if that’s what you crave. I’ve had a lot of cars, and honestly for me it’s the best I’ve driven. The Speedster is right there too a open top GT3 basically with the best manual I’ve ever shifted. Looks like I will be saving some cash on cars for awhile because these two keep me busy. Enjoy and be safe.
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11-12-2020, 11:32 AM
#5854
765LT and 620R slower than 720S/600LT 
fuhro @ GCF forum
Tracktest in the new Sport Auto:
Laptime Hockenheim GP: 1:46,2 min
(Driver: Christian Gebhardt, conditions: air: 20°C, track: 22°C)
Tires: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
Weight: 1404 kg
Comments from Gebhardt: A lot of oversteer, lack of grip and stability, therefore even slower than 720S Track Pack with Trofeo's
They also tested the 620R, which had a lot of understeer and was 0,5s slower than 600LT (1:49,4 min)
Other laptimes:
1:40,8...McLaren Senna (Trofeo R)
1:43,3...Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series (Cup 2 R)
1:43,5...Manthey-Porsche 911 GT2 RS MR (Cup 2 R)
1:45,5...McLaren 720S Track Pack (Trofeo R)
1:45,9...Ferrari 488 Pista (Cup 2 R)
1:46,0...a-workx-Porsche 911 GT3 RS (Cup 2 R)
1:46,2...McLaren 765LT (Trofeo R)
1:47,3...Lamborghini Aventador SVJ (Trofeo R)
1:47,8...Porsche 911 Turbo S (992, P Zero)....Supertest coming up next issue (Dec 18th)
1:48,0...Mercedes-AMG GT R Pro (Cup 2 ZP)
1:48,5...Mercedes-AMG GT R (Cup 2 ZP)
1:48,9...McLaren 600LT (Trofeo R)
1:49,0...Lamborghini Huracán Evo (Trofeo R)
1:49,4...McLaren 620R (Trofeo R)
1:50,0...Porsche 911 Turbo S (991.2, P Zero Corsa)
Tracktest in the new Sport Auto:
Laptime Hockenheim GP: 1:46,2 min
(Driver: Christian Gebhardt, conditions: air: 20°C, track: 22°C)
Tires: Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
Weight: 1404 kg
Comments from Gebhardt: A lot of oversteer, lack of grip and stability, therefore even slower than 720S Track Pack with Trofeo's
They also tested the 620R, which had a lot of understeer and was 0,5s slower than 600LT (1:49,4 min)
Other laptimes:
1:40,8...McLaren Senna (Trofeo R)
1:43,3...Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series (Cup 2 R)
1:43,5...Manthey-Porsche 911 GT2 RS MR (Cup 2 R)
1:45,5...McLaren 720S Track Pack (Trofeo R)
1:45,9...Ferrari 488 Pista (Cup 2 R)
1:46,0...a-workx-Porsche 911 GT3 RS (Cup 2 R)
1:46,2...McLaren 765LT (Trofeo R)
1:47,3...Lamborghini Aventador SVJ (Trofeo R)
1:47,8...Porsche 911 Turbo S (992, P Zero)....Supertest coming up next issue (Dec 18th)
1:48,0...Mercedes-AMG GT R Pro (Cup 2 ZP)
1:48,5...Mercedes-AMG GT R (Cup 2 ZP)
1:48,9...McLaren 600LT (Trofeo R)
1:49,0...Lamborghini Huracán Evo (Trofeo R)
1:49,4...McLaren 620R (Trofeo R)
1:50,0...Porsche 911 Turbo S (991.2, P Zero Corsa)
11-12-2020, 11:35 AM
#5855
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11-14-2020, 06:18 PM
#5857
For those who own 600LT or has a good experience driving it.
How easy is it to live with 600LT in comparison to GT3/GT3RS with respect to ground clearance? I don’t have any issues with my GT3 having a nose lift. Is driving around town significantly more of a headache in 600LT?
How easy is it to live with 600LT in comparison to GT3/GT3RS with respect to ground clearance? I don’t have any issues with my GT3 having a nose lift. Is driving around town significantly more of a headache in 600LT?
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11-15-2020, 02:20 PM
#5858
sport auto 11 hours ago
Why is the 765LT (1.46,2 min) slower than the 720S (1.45,5 min)? The 720S with Track Pack / Trofeo R had a very well balanced setup with perfect traction and a good drivability. In the 765LT it was the opposite. First problem: Entry oversteer when the steering input is a tiny bit too sharp (You have to work very, very sensitive on the steering wheel at the corner entry). Second problem: Less traction and snappy oversteer during accelerating out of the corner.
Why is the 620R (1.49,4 min) slower than the 600LT (1.48,9 min)? Less topspeed in the 620R than in the 600LT (Parabolica: 600LT 271 km/h, 620R 259 km/h).
Why is the 765LT (1.46,2 min) slower than the 720S (1.45,5 min)? The 720S with Track Pack / Trofeo R had a very well balanced setup with perfect traction and a good drivability. In the 765LT it was the opposite. First problem: Entry oversteer when the steering input is a tiny bit too sharp (You have to work very, very sensitive on the steering wheel at the corner entry). Second problem: Less traction and snappy oversteer during accelerating out of the corner.
Why is the 620R (1.49,4 min) slower than the 600LT (1.48,9 min)? Less topspeed in the 620R than in the 600LT (Parabolica: 600LT 271 km/h, 620R 259 km/h).
11-15-2020, 03:24 PM
#5859
For those who own 600LT or has a good experience driving it.
How easy is it to live with 600LT in comparison to GT3/GT3RS with respect to ground clearance? I don’t have any issues with my GT3 having a nose lift. Is driving around town significantly more of a headache in 600LT?
How easy is it to live with 600LT in comparison to GT3/GT3RS with respect to ground clearance? I don’t have any issues with my GT3 having a nose lift. Is driving around town significantly more of a headache in 600LT?
Yes, I know how to do the shortcut on the 600LT (press up on stalk twice), but I have had times where it didn’t work, or a message pops up at just the wrong time and then you have to clear that message before the shortcut will work. Frankly the FAL is just annoying on the 600LT and takes some getting used to. The biggest thing is you just have to be mentally prepared ahead of time more than in the GT3RS.
But as far as just ground clearance goes, I don’t notice much difference.
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11-15-2020, 03:32 PM
#5860
11-15-2020, 04:51 PM
#5861
It seems about the same to me. The only annoying thing about the 600LT is I find the FAL is not as easy to activate as the button in the GT3RS. It is also slower to get to full height.
Yes, I know how to do the shortcut on the 600LT (press up on stalk twice), but I have had times where it didn’t work, or a message pops up at just the wrong time and then you have to clear that message before the shortcut will work. Frankly the FAL is just annoying on the 600LT and takes some getting used to. The biggest thing is you just have to be mentally prepared ahead of time more than in the GT3RS.
But as far as just ground clearance goes, I don’t notice much difference.
Yes, I know how to do the shortcut on the 600LT (press up on stalk twice), but I have had times where it didn’t work, or a message pops up at just the wrong time and then you have to clear that message before the shortcut will work. Frankly the FAL is just annoying on the 600LT and takes some getting used to. The biggest thing is you just have to be mentally prepared ahead of time more than in the GT3RS.
But as far as just ground clearance goes, I don’t notice much difference.
thanks for the explanation!
yes, I did read that the nose lift in McLarens is very slow and is more difficult to activate.
I think I will not have serious issues as you just slow down before you know there is an obstacle.
I was more interested in how the ground clearance is compared to GT3/RS when it is in standard mode while driving.
If it is more or less the same, then I think I would have to buy 600LT sooner or later as I just can’t stop thinking about this car.
11-15-2020, 05:13 PM
#5862
Originally Posted by kart driver
thanks for the explanation!
yes, I did read that the nose lift in McLarens is very slow and is more difficult to activate.
I think I will not have serious issues as you just slow down before you know there is an obstacle.
I was more interested in how the ground clearance is compared to GT3/RS when it is in standard mode while driving.
If it is more or less the same, then I think I would have to buy 600LT sooner or later as I just can’t stop thinking about this car.
yes, I did read that the nose lift in McLarens is very slow and is more difficult to activate.
I think I will not have serious issues as you just slow down before you know there is an obstacle.
I was more interested in how the ground clearance is compared to GT3/RS when it is in standard mode while driving.
If it is more or less the same, then I think I would have to buy 600LT sooner or later as I just can’t stop thinking about this car.
Is that an advantage? Not sure.
But the slow lift on a MAC wouldn't stop me from buying one.
11-15-2020, 05:36 PM
#5863
slow lift is not a problem at all.
the issue might have been the disability to drive with no issues on the roads where 911 gt3 drives just fine. But as I read 600LT doesn’t have those issues.
11-15-2020, 07:10 PM
#5864
Rennlist Member
This is only for the 675 and 720 series cars, the 570 and 600lt is just front lift, but its been fine for me regardless.
11-15-2020, 07:36 PM
#5865
thanks for the explanation!
yes, I did read that the nose lift in McLarens is very slow and is more difficult to activate.
I think I will not have serious issues as you just slow down before you know there is an obstacle.
I was more interested in how the ground clearance is compared to GT3/RS when it is in standard mode while driving.
If it is more or less the same, then I think I would have to buy 600LT sooner or later as I just can’t stop thinking about this car.
yes, I did read that the nose lift in McLarens is very slow and is more difficult to activate.
I think I will not have serious issues as you just slow down before you know there is an obstacle.
I was more interested in how the ground clearance is compared to GT3/RS when it is in standard mode while driving.
If it is more or less the same, then I think I would have to buy 600LT sooner or later as I just can’t stop thinking about this car.
And in the grand scheme the lift “issues” I have with the 600LT are pretty minor. Certainly not something that would keep me from buying and enjoying the car.