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What prompted you to get the 5522 AND the 5524? Quite similar, unless I’ve overlooked something.
Another way of thinking about it ... if you pay for B&P, you’ll get the premium back if/when you exit. If you DON’T pay the premium when you enter, you won’t have to capture that premium if/when you exit.
I have B&P for my watches, but I would be willing to “test drive” a watch without them.
Yes- 5524 and 5522 are very similar. I had the 5524 first and then was invited to the New York exhibition a few years back where I met Thierry and other Patek execs. Was offered the 5522 and was not going to turn it down. Love that piece for the simplicity. Actually love both 5522 and 5524.
With regards to B&P- correct you are. I tend not to sell my pieces (not anymore after making the disastrous mistake of selling a 5980 a few years ago) so I value the B&P but if you can save money- yeah I guess. I buy my pieces new now and not second hand. Get everything at MSRP due to my relationship with my dealer over the years so the no B&P wouldn't apply to me I guess but I think having the complete piece is a nice part of the ownership experience.
A bunch of you have probably seen Robert Mitchell's videos. The 620R looks like quite a nice package, and still road legal. This is what I consider the ideal "clubsport" model. I think the current 718 GT4 Clubsport and GT2RS Clubsport models are more race cars than they are clubsport trims.
This gentleman also got locked in his Mclaren as well. Start watching at the 19:45 mark. So between me, my friend's P1 and this guy on Youtube, that's already 3 guys getting stuck in their Mclaren. Surely, there are no serious quality issues with Mclaren whatsoever
At least in your case the manual release worked. Did the P1 not have a manual release?
With the benefit of hindsight, if I may, McLaren could be in a better financial position today if they simply offered an extended warranty on their cars at no additional cost. The reliability reputation of the MP4 12Cs, deserved or not, created an issue for the brand moving forward with the 570 and 650 models, imho. Since McL is a new brand, It is difficult to get rid of the lack of reliability stigma. Bad experiences tend to be magnified and spread dast, and we hear less, or pay less attention, about good experiences. Ferrari addressed maintenance cost fears after the 355/360, starting with 458s, and extended warranties. I know of people who would not touch a Ferrari, until the new warranties came into play. Perception is business reality, unfortunately. Mcl could have mirrored the Ferrari experience.
The current status of the brand is unfortunately not at par with McL's racing pedigree and their leading edge technology efforts (including materials research). Hopefully some good things to come form them in the e future.
According to their public filing Ferrari makes half of their earnings with parts.
They have a large base of existing cars out of warranty to milk. McLaren, if they offered longer warranties, would directly cut into their earnings.
The P1 had the manual latch but it didn't work. Just like the gentleman in the YouTube video, he used the manual and it didn't work for him either. So the hammer technique was applied
Originally Posted by squid42
At least in your case the manual release worked. Did the P1 not have a manual release?
According to their public filing Ferrari makes half of their earnings with parts.
They have a large base of existing cars out of warranty to milk. McLaren, if they offered longer warranties, would directly cut into their earnings.
Good point - there is clearly a trade off between revenues from parts and revenues from new cars. I don't know the decomposition of McL's revenues, but would think that they would make more money selling new cars, and hence my observation on extended warranty at no cost. Plus some intangible benefits that would work over time from the general trust in the brand (besides performance).
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