McLaren Success
#5102
Nordschleife Master
Mac doesn’t need to convince the population of loving owners to buy Mac. It has to convince those who don’t have experience with ownership to take the plunge.
Public image/perception.
Apparently you guys don’t understand or in denial.
No worries. It is what it is.
And this thread should absolutely be moved to the right sub forum
Last edited by Waxer; 05-27-2020 at 09:54 AM.
#5103
Nothing to do with making assumptions on anything.
Aside from all the negative YouTube blogs you don’t need to own one to read stuff like this that appears all too often and form a negative impression.
https://www.mclarenlife.com/threads/...oncerns.89265/
Aside from all the negative YouTube blogs you don’t need to own one to read stuff like this that appears all too often and form a negative impression.
https://www.mclarenlife.com/threads/...oncerns.89265/
#5104
Drifting
The person who made the claim is an obnoxious know-it-all, but does seem to know enough about McLarens that they would know that basic point ... Freudian slip?
#5105
Why move a thread that's been ongoing for over three years? It's just spirited debate and there have been no personal insults or attacks. For Pete's sake what do you expect from an anonymous Internet car forum? For the sensitive type avoid this thread - simple. SMH.
#5106
Any time, feel free Happy to play that whole game in public. It really is no wonder that Porsche owners are universally reviled.
I find it interesting that a small number of you want to close this thread down..............I suspect some of us Mclaren owners own far more Porsche sports cars than most on here ............
I really like my Abyss Black - registration of interest. Porsche won't be getting one anytime soon. Going going gone.....................................................
oh wait another GTXXX lol......................................
Last edited by groundhog; 05-27-2020 at 11:24 AM.
#5107
I happen to think my Mclaren 720S is better than any Porsche I have ever owned (other than in a very narrow window) and I own a current 991.2 GT3 RS - do you have a problem with that?
Happy to go into the fine detail, happy to compare the tire wear characteristics of the P corsas Vs Cup 2 and Cup 2 R with photos if you like
Perhaps more renders of the 765LT - I have (formally) registered interest in will do it for you - can put up some photos of my fully caged 991.2 RS for you - or will the bare roof and absence of sun visors cause a value and depreciation melt down .......
After all thats what most GT owners wet their pants about. Yes, thats the singularity I have taken away with me from rennlist. Value and depreciation threads as a combined entity, that plus ill advised badge snobbery - particularly given there are far better cars out there.
Last edited by groundhog; 05-27-2020 at 11:48 AM.
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#5108
Drifting
Yep its correct, they moved to Ricardo a long time ago - I keep thinking in terms of their F1 relationships (which reignite in 21). Love the obnoxious know it all bit - good to see Porsche douchery alive and kicking - as always. Better speak to your mate Walliser...........Lets have a full and frank discussion, how about compare and contrast the GT3 RS with the 765LT and would really love to nail him to the cross of the 991.1 GT3 engine in public.
Any time, feel free Happy to play that whole game in public. It really is no wonder that Porsche owners are universally reviled.
I find it interesting that a small number of you want to close this thread down..............I suspect some of us Mclaren owners own far more Porsche sports cars than most on here ............
I really like my Abyss Black - registration of interest. Porsche won't be getting one anytime soon. Going going gone.....................................................
oh wait another GTXXX lol......................................
Any time, feel free Happy to play that whole game in public. It really is no wonder that Porsche owners are universally reviled.
I find it interesting that a small number of you want to close this thread down..............I suspect some of us Mclaren owners own far more Porsche sports cars than most on here ............
I really like my Abyss Black - registration of interest. Porsche won't be getting one anytime soon. Going going gone.....................................................
oh wait another GTXXX lol......................................
#5109
^^^ life is short - they're just cars. I really don't care that much other than where people give terrible track set up advice and there is plenty of that on rennlist.
Porsche are out of date and they know it, Walliser certainly does - 992 quick but dismal. They need a leap as per the 996 GT3 (which was for homologation purposes and they thought they would sell 700). Unfortunately the old guard is holding them back.
Again life is short, those that have the ability simply move on. Thats what I'm doing.
Porsche are out of date and they know it, Walliser certainly does - 992 quick but dismal. They need a leap as per the 996 GT3 (which was for homologation purposes and they thought they would sell 700). Unfortunately the old guard is holding them back.
Again life is short, those that have the ability simply move on. Thats what I'm doing.
#5110
I would venture that less than 1% of owners post anything on line.
That, plus, I suspect most commentators have maybe personally spoken to let's say 5-20 owners? What % sample size is that?
Last edited by FLGT; 05-27-2020 at 02:19 PM.
#5111
This thread is really funny. Every now and again i've pointed out my 675LT has had its share of issues, and certainly costs more than my .2 RS to keep on the road. That said, it's still totally insane and engaging to drive. As far as "public perception" (which seems to be the meat of the argument somehow? As though anyone cares?) i haven't rolled up to a stop sign or stop light in 2 years that hasn't had a member of the public grinning from ear to ear. This is a dumb argument that i truly don't even know what its about (but have laughed reading so thanks!)
P.S. I dont discriminate. My RS is a lot of fun too!
P.S. I dont discriminate. My RS is a lot of fun too!
#5112
Agree 1000%. Nor am I sure someone who has NEVER owned a Mac, is suddenly the expert on the public perception of them, based on on-line postings.
I would venture that less than 1% of owners post anything on line.
That, plus, I suspect Waxer has maybe personally spoken to let's say 10-20 owners? What % sample size is that?
I would venture that less than 1% of owners post anything on line.
That, plus, I suspect Waxer has maybe personally spoken to let's say 10-20 owners? What % sample size is that?
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Napoli (05-27-2020)
#5113
The public perception is real but it's because most of these people are trapped in an echo chamber. As an owner of an LT, I haven't experienced any of these negatives yet. Do I have any issues? Yes minor ones... rattles here and there but my 991 also creaks/ rattles, suffered rubber rot on both front and rear windows, etc.
I find it funny someone said Maclaren comes out with new models every month but has failed to see the n-number of 911 variants it has.. ive lost count when it reached double digits. I think same statements are derived from the same echo chamber. Give it a rest.
I find it funny someone said Maclaren comes out with new models every month but has failed to see the n-number of 911 variants it has.. ive lost count when it reached double digits. I think same statements are derived from the same echo chamber. Give it a rest.
#5114
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Here's my perception of McLaren.
About a year ago I was t-h-i-s close to getting a 675LT Spider.
Had all the paperwork done and ready to go, and right before I was about to put pen to paper, we did a final walk around the car, and the the door wouldn't open. No matter what we did, couldn't get the thing to swivel up. It was awkward and embarrassing for everyone involved. Ended up walking away from the deal. Can't live with a car that every once in a while I can't get the door to open. Dealer was good about it too, even just recently offered me a 765LT build slot.
So, yes, my perception is that McLaren has its quality control issues. And, yes, I'm not an owner. Wanted to be one. May still want to be one in the future. But not now.
But I still have my perceptions of McLarens, right or wrong. They are what they are.
About a year ago I was t-h-i-s close to getting a 675LT Spider.
Had all the paperwork done and ready to go, and right before I was about to put pen to paper, we did a final walk around the car, and the the door wouldn't open. No matter what we did, couldn't get the thing to swivel up. It was awkward and embarrassing for everyone involved. Ended up walking away from the deal. Can't live with a car that every once in a while I can't get the door to open. Dealer was good about it too, even just recently offered me a 765LT build slot.
So, yes, my perception is that McLaren has its quality control issues. And, yes, I'm not an owner. Wanted to be one. May still want to be one in the future. But not now.
But I still have my perceptions of McLarens, right or wrong. They are what they are.
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Napoli (05-27-2020)
#5115
Rennlist Member
I agree with Waxer. You don't need to own a car to understand how the public views it. It's not a ownership perception we're discussing; it's a PUBLIC perception. Waxer and I are part of the public. And from what I've seen online in forums, youtube and other contexts, Mclaren has a perception, real or not, of being unreliable and prone to electric gremlins. If you're not aware of this, then you're just ignoring it.
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