991 GT2RS
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Socrate whistle
The train locomotive whistle too
so Socrate must be a locomotive
The train locomotive whistle too
so Socrate must be a locomotive
#332
The last GT2RS made 625hp 7 years before this one. How could that possibly be enough? Not sure if it'll have electric or not (the new motor could certainly make 700hp on its own if they choose), but no way it's going to have less or the same power as the last version...
The competition (couple years old now and even older with GT2 RS release) already has 675hp (F488 and 675LT).
The competition (couple years old now and even older with GT2 RS release) already has 675hp (F488 and 675LT).
The rear layout inherently enables it to put down hp more easily than mid-engine, hence why they could offer 625hp back on the old 997 chassis. This new chassis will easily let them eclipse 700hp with only RWD. I think 700 is the magic number for this car, maybe more. They won't need hybrid tech to make it basically the fastest production car available that isn't a million dollar supercar. Some aero and boost will get the job done. Will be a monster.
#333
This.
The rear layout inherently enables it to put down hp more easily than mid-engine, hence why they could offer 625hp back on the old 997 chassis. This new chassis will easily let them eclipse 700hp with only RWD. I think 700 is the magic number for this car, maybe more. They won't need hybrid tech to make it basically the fastest production car available that isn't a million dollar supercar. Some aero and boost will get the job done. Will be a monster.
The rear layout inherently enables it to put down hp more easily than mid-engine, hence why they could offer 625hp back on the old 997 chassis. This new chassis will easily let them eclipse 700hp with only RWD. I think 700 is the magic number for this car, maybe more. They won't need hybrid tech to make it basically the fastest production car available that isn't a million dollar supercar. Some aero and boost will get the job done. Will be a monster.
#335
Is it really a HP limit on the chassis/engine components or more of a torque issue with PDK? I doubt PDK can handle that kind of torque ... that's why the RS7 had to use the single clutch ZF8 over the DSG in the S6/7.
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^Considering how many competent buyers are around....
#338
AFAIK Panamera Turbo S uses PDK and has about 50lbs-ft more than RS7 Performance (590lbs-ft in Panamera Turbo S).
#340
Has the 911 ever been the most powerful car in class? Seems very unlikely the GT2 will win the dyno war against the 675LT and 488. They didn't even play that game with the flagship 918. Chances are it will be the least powerful and yet quickest in class. You know, the usual.
Im hoping for 700 but expect 650. We are probably on the ragged edge of pdk power handling and rwd traction so electric boost to the front tires makes a lot of sense, although I think we are a little early to see it next year.
Im hoping for 700 but expect 650. We are probably on the ragged edge of pdk power handling and rwd traction so electric boost to the front tires makes a lot of sense, although I think we are a little early to see it next year.
#342
Has the 911 ever been the most powerful car in class? Seems very unlikely the GT2 will win the dyno war against the 675LT and 488. They didn't even play that game with the flagship 918. Chances are it will be the least powerful and yet quickest in class. You know, the usual.
Some recent developments show that Porsche has not settled to quick and is still aiming for fast. The 718 S variants fall into that category.
If you spend enough money on e.g. really expensive turbochargers you can get a lot of horsepower out of the engine room available in the 991. Some of it would be due to higher heat resistance, which is tricky to do for reliability. Porsche could demonstrate their technical prowess by making that work reliably. Needs a big budget but the GT2 will be expensive for the consumer. So it cuts into the earnings from the GT2, which might be a price they are willing to pay.
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