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Old 06-30-2017, 09:01 PM
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There will still be flippers and dealers will still mark them up especially in the beginning. Ferrari's and Lambo's get marked up and flipped over msrp and Porsche has more of a following in my eyes...all depends on how many are produced and patience
Old 06-30-2017, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by carz80am
There will still be flippers and dealers will still mark them up especially in the beginning. Ferrari's and Lambo's get marked up and flipped over msrp and Porsche has more of a following in my eyes...all depends on how many are produced and patience
Only Ferrari's that hold value over MSRP are the limited edition cars which you must be chosen to purchase. All the other regular production cars depreciate although when they first come out typically trade for above sticker for 6 to 12 months give or take. Once the initial demand of year one is over they drop like any other car.

What Porsche means when they said the only limit for this car is production capacity I guess we will find out. Maybe they figure let's charge 300k and make as many as people willing to pay for them. This guarantees to kill the flippers and speculators which they have LOUDLY stated is their goal recently. Maybe this car is the first time we'll see just how they put that stated goal to action as well as how effective it is.
Old 06-30-2017, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Footsoldier
Think there will be a lot of black ones...
Colors don't work for me either, and others have said the same.
Black or Chalk work for me, rest not so much. Will have to wait and see how the allocations play out first before worrying too much.
Old 06-30-2017, 09:44 PM
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991 GT3 RS had be more excited than the 991 GT2 RS.
Will hold off for the 991.2 RS
Old 06-30-2017, 09:53 PM
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What an amazing machine. Looking forward to see some of our RL's ****** one up.
Old 06-30-2017, 09:59 PM
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Old 06-30-2017, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by marcvv
Only Ferrari's that hold value over MSRP are the limited edition cars which you must be chosen to purchase. All the other regular production cars depreciate although when they first come out typically trade for above sticker for 6 to 12 months give or take. Once the initial demand of year one is over they drop like any other car.

What Porsche means when they said the only limit for this car is production capacity I guess we will find out. Maybe they figure let's charge 300k and make as many as people willing to pay for them. This guarantees to kill the flippers and speculators which they have LOUDLY stated is their goal recently. Maybe this car is the first time we'll see just how they put that stated goal to action as well as how effective it is.
I don't think Porsche cares about the flippers it's the 918 guys and those dealers who make everyone frustrated. Porsche cares about profits and retaining customers 1000 now and another 500 later the W package bean counters dream.
Old 06-30-2017, 10:05 PM
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Looks like a great case of the turbo charged GT2RS delivering bang for buck

Old 06-30-2017, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by nuvolari612
I don't think Porsche cares about the flippers it's the 918 guys and those dealers who make everyone frustrated. Porsche cares about profits and retaining customers 1000 now and another 500 later the W package bean counters dream.
+911 on this
Old 06-30-2017, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by randr
Looks like a great case of the turbo charged GT2RS delivering bang for buck

Yup, I stand corrected. Thanks petevb for updating your excellent chart. On Porsche's power/price scale it's off the charts great value. But.. what about vs the competition?
Old 06-30-2017, 10:55 PM
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That sound. I just did the vacuuming this morning and I can't hear the difference.

The perfect car for the cleaning business mogul perhaps?
Old 06-30-2017, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by marcvv
Only Ferrari's that hold value over MSRP are the limited edition cars which you must be chosen to purchase. All the other regular production cars depreciate although when they first come out typically trade for above sticker for 6 to 12 months give or take. Once the initial demand of year one is over they drop like any other car.
Ferrari's command the market price and/or premium (depending on the model we're talking about) on the used car market the same way Patek's command their market price/premium at the auctions.

#MarketManipulationByManufacturer
Old 06-30-2017, 11:28 PM
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You're all nuts.

Just wait until this car hits the Ring and throws up some killer numbers thanks to the aero, and everyone will be freaking out about it again.

All Weissach for me. Guess I'm waiting until April/May 2018, maybe longer if they allow me some PTS (Chartreuse).
Old 06-30-2017, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Ferrari's command the market price and/or premium (depending on the model we're talking about) on the used car market the same way Patek's command their market price/premium at the auctions.

#MarketManipulationByManufacturer
Exactly! It isn't self-sustaining.
Old 06-30-2017, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern
You're all nuts.

Just wait until this car hits the Ring and throws up some killer numbers thanks to the aero, and everyone will be freaking out about it again.

All Weissach for me. Guess I'm waiting until April/May 2018, maybe longer if they allow me some PTS (Chartreuse).
Lol, I thought of posting it but didn't. It's pretty simple - fastest 911 is fastest 911.

Weissach for me as well and hopefully PTS.


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