Drifting

Agree with both statements. Porsche won't upset their carefully controlled car hierarchy, the GT2RS will set a great ring time, and all cars will be sold promptly to Porsche diehards.


.........in the meantime, Mclaren 675LT/720S/"745LT" will provide a similar driving experience of TT engine, RWD, DCT, long wheelbase, aero, etc. for a similar cost, but beat the GT2RS in performance.

MaxLTV

I guess the Moulin Rouge package is going to be optional

MaxLTV

Well, you are comparing it to some spectacular cars. It's not like mclaren is anything short of extraordinary. It's not that Porsche got any less great but rather a new superb manufacturer came into the picture.

Also, 745LT will probably be $400K+ when all said and done. In fact, even 675LT is impossible to find under 400K in a good configuration. So it's not surprising that it's faster.

Porsche will figure out a way to make GT2 stand out. Performance-wise you can get 95% or more of what GT3 offers from something like 350R or some other cars that cost much less, and ACR wipes the floor with a GT3, and yet you keep buying GT3s. There is a reason for that, right?

I also sometimes feel like Porsche is conning its buyers still selling non-carbon fiber cars with rather old-tech suspensions compared even to GM, but when it gets to driving, somehow it still works better.

fun2k

ROFL , I went with the orange interior in my rs but will not do it again.The red would look even worse , looks like it was made by those tuner companies as a one of one when imagination went back to a childish dreams.

Guest89

Delete the frunk and give us the RSR front suspension!

The hair shirt, pur sang, no AC crowd would love the opportunity to brag to their neighbors / cars and coffee attendees about their $300k car that lacks a trunk.

One of the journalist ride-alongs (Total 911 IIRC) mentioned the NACA ducts supplying additional brake cooling.

GrantG

This is a very cutting edge development, previously only seen in $30k Subarus and Mitsubishis from 15 years ago

https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=297783

Drifting

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SamFromTX

Not arguing with either of you but a question: Porsche always kept the Cayenne line with torque converter citing the PDK can not handle extra stress of towing. Is that different than just plain acceleration?

Very true. And the cost of maintaining/track modifying McLaren is utterly ridiculous.

GrantG

There are several versions of PDK boxes (and the SUV 's use a different one than the sports cars). But there are multiple versions of sports car pdk with different torque ratings.

TRAKCAR

I like the blacked out steering wheel, hopefully an all black interior will be possible.
I didn't see the **** dial for selecting sport, sport +, and whatever the additional settings are called for the PDK+. The current 2 settings of Caddy lazy slushbox setting and the batsh!t crazy track settings are not enough....

isv

Thing is though, the other cars are designed primarily as road cars with the capability to go bloody quick on track for a couple of laps (which they are) mainly for bragging rights and should probably be judged as such, ie road cars which they are I think very good at with a greater breadth of capability than any of the GT cars, even the 991 cars which are much better on the road than previous. The challenge cars and sprints are the Ferrari/Mclaren versions of cars that are designed to be flogged on track all the time not the road cars.

I agree of course that the the GT cars can be run harder on track and at much more sensible running costs but whether that's necessarily true of this car is not immediately obvious. A lot of the running costs are at least partially due to the much higher top speeds and power. Ultimately a 700hp car weighing 1500+kg is going to rack up a huge amount of consumables on track whether Porsche, Mclaren or Ferrari imo. And for all of Mclaren's faults their cars will run 40 miles on track without having to stop for a refill of some cooling tank !

Don't get me wrong, I think the gt2rs will be a very impressive performing machine and almost certainly the quickest thing around now. Porsche have certainly have had long enough to engineer it to win the lap time war but so far from what has been announced, yet another massively computer dependent lap time monster mainly designed to flog out some quick laps (see cooling tank refill) leaves me a bit cold I have to admit.

TRAKCAR

Right.

Only Porsche's can be beat on day after day, in the heat, all day long.
I mean, 4 days on tires, 8-10 day on front pads, 16-20 days on front rotors and the rear pads and rotors last forever..

About 56-58 track days now, 19K miles. And not even a hickup?!
I can only whine about low fuel limp mode, a finicky oil level and TPMS bot allowing to set below 26PSI..

Filling up a water tank a la M4 GTS meh, but OK.
As long as it goes and goes, there is no substitute.

All other stuff I rarely see on track simply won't function right, or not for long, or at insane running costs...I'd love to have an alternative but it doesn't exist.

porscheflat6

Agree a 100% which I switches from bmw to porsche

C.J. Ichiban

At that kind of time spent on track I run a race car...eventually you will have a completely shot ___________ and it will need to be replaced for ___,______.

I personally think that while porsche is lauded for reliability on track we are also talking about catastrophic pdk failures, camshaft blowouts, etc on the GT3. Cup cars blow engines. When you flog cars hard they all break eventually.

Granted it sounds like you have been through 4 sets of pads and 14 sets of tires and 2 sets of rotors...how much life do you have left in your axles, hubs, center lock nut, shocks, etc??

chaosoul

Its not 700hp


its not sold out


its not debut in october