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Old 06-30-2017, 04:04 PM
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Old 06-30-2017, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrappy1972
Any confirmation on whether it's limited production?


Unlike the last GT2 RS, this car won't be a limited production series, meaning Porsche will make as many as its production capacity allows.

So this should stop the flippers and dealers marking these up quite so much. Basically if somebody has 300k and wants one it's yours. Now the question is will dealers offer discounts since there is no production cap?
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Originally Posted by marcvv
Unlike the last GT2 RS, this car won't be a limited production series, meaning Porsche will make as many as its production capacity allows.

So this should stop the flippers and dealers marking these up quite so much. Basically if somebody has 300k and wants one it's yours. Now the question is will dealers offer discounts since there is no production cap?
I highly doubt it'll be like that.

There was no "cap" on the 991.1 GT3 RS either.
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern
I highly doubt it'll be like that.

There was no "cap" on the 991.1 GT3 RS either.
Doesn't 991 production shut down by the end of the next year for the 992? If so, the build window will be around 6 months. It also makes me wonder if there will even be a .2 GT3RS. If there is, it will be an even shorter build window (and quantity). 500 unit 4.2L?
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Originally Posted by Sonnen Porsche
Interesting points however I cannot see how this car could come in at $230,000-$240,000 when the 2011 GT2 RS was $245,950 MSRP before options? Now you could say that a $50,000 increase in MSRP is excessive but I was expecting at least $275,000 + for this car. The 2018 GT3 went up $14,000 over the 2016 model for reference. What is the 2011 GT2 RS trading for now in the market? $450,000+? What will a 720S trade for in 3 years time when McLaren announces a 780s? 70% or less of its value it would appear based on the way the market has been going. The Lamborghini will also be worth much less than MSRP. The GT2RS will be worth no worse than MSRP and potentially much more. A lot of folks paid close to $300,000 for a GT3RS with crazy mark ups over sticker. Porsche probably noticed this I think....
Ok, well stated.. maybe $50-80k Over is too much, I should have looked at previous generation. I think if we can see that chart/graph which shows the price/hp progression of Porsche's that someone whee created, that can help clear up this reception. Maybe when we plot this 700hp GT2 on that chart we find that the price/hp proportion is exactly in line with the rest of the lineup?.. or maybe it's way above the line and it comes out looking like a screaming deal? I don't know.. but it seems very expensive when it's content is compared to the market.. maybe the real answer is that the 911 lineup has limits and this car at $300k Msrp has breached these perceived limits?!?
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Originally Posted by Scrappy1972
Doesn't 991 production shut down by the end of the next year for the 992? If so, the build window will be around 6 months. It also makes me wonder if there will even be a .2 GT3RS. If there is, it will be an even shorter build window (and quantity). 500 unit 4.2L?
Yes, although we've historically seen them continue production of the previous gen's "special" cars while the new gen is ramping up.

Unless that has changed in recent years with the 997.2 -> 991.1. I can't remember now.

That said, I do expect there to be a limited/numbered GT3 RS (perhaps 4.2L) to end the 991 generation. I'm just hoping I can secure one.
Old 06-30-2017, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by marcvv
Now the question is will dealers offer discounts since there is no production cap?
That is comedy gold!!




We have over 18 deposits on this car and I fully expect to receive less than 5 total if we are lucky. Now perhaps I will be way off base and we will get all of these orders..... We need 50 2018 GT3's to fill our orders that we stopped taking a while back....I am sure I will get nowhere close to that many cars. I would love to be proven wrong and get my clients the cars they want to buy.
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I think 300k msrp for the GT2 RS is fair for a 700HP car with over 550 ft/lb torque. Rear wheel steer. Sub 3 second to 60mph. A 720S even modestly equipped is way over 300k. A 488 is 660HP and that will tip the scales over 300k with just a couple minor options. I think at the 293k msrp porsche has placed it is priced about right for 2018 for what it is when compared to alternatives from all competition.

Should I trade in my '16 GT3 RS for the GT2 RS is the question??? Have to think about the rationale on that. Pretty sure any pro or pro-am driver would beat anyone else quite easily in a GT3 RS when up against us mere mortals in a GT2 RS. Also unless you are tracking these cars hard to get even 75% of what they are capable of when on public roads. These things all really belong on a track.
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i think 300k is right.
For the following reasons.
Porsche noticed gt3rs mark-ups from dealers and individuals flipping around that price range.
In order to stop this non-sense and weed out all the flippers, priced the car at 300k. Very hard to markup / flip above those prices. Over 300k is a big investment of a flipper. Cleans up flippers and dealers w/ markups. Therefore those who want the car, can really spec out what they (actually get an allocation). You can thank the flippers and dealers for the price hike. Tag along w/ the fact that they announce production will not be limited. It's a big F you notice to flippers and dealers that will want to mark-up by saying "limited production" bs. story.
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Originally Posted by F1CrazyDriver
i think 300k is right.
For the following reasons.
Porsche noticed gt3rs mark-ups from dealers and individuals flipping around that price range.
In order to stop this non-sense and weed out all the flippers, priced the car at 300k. Very hard to markup / flip above those prices. Over 300k is a big investment of a flipper. Cleans up flippers and dealers w/ markups. Therefore those who want the car, can really spec out what they (actually get an allocation). You can tank the flippers and dealers for the price hike. Tag along w/ the fact that they announce production will not be limited. It's a big F you notice to flippers and dealers that will want to mark-up.
^this!
Old 06-30-2017, 04:34 PM
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price is ok.
don't hate when you do not have one till now. maybe it will be like 991.1GT3RS. if you really want one and you can wait. you will get a "reasonable" one.

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Old 06-30-2017, 04:43 PM
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p.s. i'll add that Porsche perhaps knows that NOT many will shell out 300k+ on a 911 , automatically will be a limited edition - just not saying it directly - because if they do, the flippers and dealers will rush in, to do what they do best. Thus in saying, not limited production, leaves the true enthusiast w/ a built spec slot. Internally i'm sure Porsche does not plan to sell more then 1,000.
Old 06-30-2017, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern
I highly doubt it'll be like that.

There was no "cap" on the 991.1 GT3 RS either.
but with the GT3RS we still bought the PAG strategy of convincing customers that it will be a rare car. this time round nobody will believe it anymore.
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