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Old 02-22-2015, 02:16 AM
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Hard to imagine that the cheaper of the two tires is wearing faster.
Old 02-22-2015, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Flip fronts and add camber.
I want to see how much more they go before cords.

Looks like a great tire.
More front wear than rear, so weird.

Maybe the better RS balance will even out the wear..
RWS?
Old 02-22-2015, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
More front wear than rear, so weird.
Was it the other way around on the 997? The rear wore our faster? That is weird...
Old 02-22-2015, 02:33 AM
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Yup 2:1 or even 3:1, the rears did everything...

My 964 cords fronts and rears at the same rate but no power and F245 R275....
Why does the GT3 push so hars with RWS and PTV instead of LSD?

What am I missing?
Old 02-22-2015, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Yup 2:1 or even 3:1, the rears did everything... My 964 cords fronts and rears at the same rate but no power and F245 R275.... Why does the GT3 push so hars with RWS and PTV instead of LSD? What am I missing?
Wow. That is very interesting. I wonder what the reason is....
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OJ ... prepare to drop all this rear-engine business .... you're about to be lured back to Boxsterland ...

http://www.carscoops.com/2015/02/her...er-tester.html

Looks like the 981 Spyder may share the GT4 3.8L !
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Originally Posted by neuroguru
OJ ... prepare to drop all this rear-engine business .... you're about to be lured back to Boxsterland ... http://www.carscoops.com/2015/02/her...er-tester.html Looks like the 981 Spyder may share the GT4 3.8L !
Lol. I've been following. Given that I only really enjoy my cars on track, the cayman GT4 speaks to me more. I'm considering selling my spyder for one....
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FWIW, with track use, I've seen a roughly equal rate of wear of F and R tires on the Cayman R and 997.1 C2S. That's with a variety of tires.
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Originally Posted by Manifold
FWIW, with track use, I've seen a roughly equal rate of wear of F and R tires on the Cayman R and 997.1 C2S. That's with a variety of tires.
Yeah, my spyder wears a touch more in front than the rear, but not like the drastic difference with the 991 GT3. This is what the NT01 on my spyder look like after 6 track days (rear on left, front on right):




So why does the 997C2S wear evenly and the 997GT3 wear more in the rear?


This is all a mystery to me...

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Old 02-22-2015, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
So why does the 997C2S wear evenly and the 997GT3 wear more in the rear?

This is all a mystery to me...
The 7.1 C2S is about 350 hp, which is a lot less than the 7 GT3, but I don't know if the power difference alone accounts for the full difference in wear. When I had R888s on the C2S, I found that I was literally shifting the rear tires relative to the rims under power, so it seems there was plenty of torque and I was using it.
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Wear on my 991 S was about twice is much on the front as the rear. What do you guys do? I started just putting fresh fronts on half way through the cycle with rears.
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Originally Posted by MayorAdamWest
Wear on my 991 S was about twice is much on the front as the rear. What do you guys do? I started just putting fresh fronts on half way through the cycle with rears.
So it's a 991 thing, then. Interesting...
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
So it's a 991 thing, then. Interesting...
There was a fair bit of understeer.
Old 02-22-2015, 12:09 PM
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Remember the Mezger engine is a lot heavier than the regular Carrera engines. It would be natural for more tire wear for the 997 in the rear. The new DFI engines are so much lighter. The 991 is much more weight balanced that your wearing the tires correctly. Open wheel racers with a reasonable power (up to 400hp) will wear the fronts more. You're driving correctly if the fronts wear faster. You're shifting the car weight to the front and that's the how you get good turn in. But that's how you destroy tires.
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With PDK The driveline is heavier.


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