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Old 12-07-2014, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by orthojoe
Looking at getting this breaker bar/torque wrench kit:
http://www.tooltopia.com/precision-i...4d600f36h.aspx

The drive is 3/4". Is the centerlock socket 3/4" drive as well?
Joe, I got the exact same tools; arrived yesterday although from a different vendor. The vendor I dealt with listed the ratchet head in that combo pack as being sold separately so I bought the wrench and bar ala carte. I don't see that bit about the ratchet head in your description so one of the listings is incorrect. On reflection, I think it was mine. You might want to confirm with Tooltopia about what's included. If that price includes everything, with the free shipping, it's about $15 less than what I paid.

And yes, the CL socket is 3/4"; I tried it on the tool last night.
Old 12-07-2014, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Joe, I got the exact same tools; arrived yesterday although from a different vendor. The vendor I dealt with listed the ratchet head in that combo pack as being sold separately so I bought the wrench and bar ala carte. I don't see that bit about the ratchet head in your description so one of the listings is incorrect. On reflection, I think it was mine. You might want to confirm with Tooltopia about what's included. If that price includes everything, with the free shipping, it's about $15 less than what I paid. And yes, the CL socket is 3/4"; I tried it on the tool last night.
Thanks, Mike!
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Joe, I got the exact same tools; arrived yesterday although from a different vendor. The vendor I dealt with listed the ratchet head in that combo pack as being sold separately so I bought the wrench and bar ala carte. I don't see that bit about the ratchet head in your description so one of the listings is incorrect. On reflection, I think it was mine. You might want to confirm with Tooltopia about what's included. If that price includes everything, with the free shipping, it's about $15 less than what I paid. And yes, the CL socket is 3/4"; I tried it on the tool last night.
So this is the setup we need for wheel changes sans the paste, correct?

Anything else? I read somewhere it was a $1000 worth if tools. This is considerably less!
Old 12-07-2014, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by doubleurx
So this is the setup we need for wheel changes sans the paste, correct?

Anything else? I read somewhere it was a $1000 worth if tools. This is considerably less!
Well, there's also the spreader to lock the brakes if you don't have a helper but those are pretty cheap (the spreader, not the helper ).

http://www.amazon.com/Irwin-Industri...iglink20410-20

Then there's the centering tool which I think is important especially if you have PCCB's. Rennline is having a 15% off Christmas sale so their tools, which are normally $350 are going for $297.50. Their centering tools are available in both aluminum and Delrin. I went with Delrin on their strong recommendation. Suncoast has the factory tool for $425.

http://www.rennline.com/Centerlock-W...oductinfo/T06/

http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...1GT3CHASSISACC

Finally there are jack stands if you need them which puts you over the $1K mark, although they're good for other uses too.

http://jackpointjackstands.com/
Old 12-07-2014, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Well, there's also the spreader to lock the brakes if you don't have a helper but those are pretty cheap (the spreader, not the helper ).

http://www.amazon.com/Irwin-Industri...iglink20410-20

Then there's the centering tool which I think is important especially if you have PCCB's. Rennline is having a 15% off Christmas sale so their tools, which are normally $350 are going for $297.50. Their centering tools are available in both aluminum and Delrin. I went with Delrin on their strong recommendation. Suncoast has the factory tool for $425.

http://www.rennline.com/Centerlock-W...oductinfo/T06/

http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...1GT3CHASSISACC

Finally there are jack stands if you need them which puts you over the $1K mark, although they're good for other uses too.

http://jackpointjackstands.com/
what I like about the Porsche wheel guide vs Rennline is that it apparently has a tool at the end to ensure the spring wheel lock fully engages with the outer splines. I'm sure a ratchet extender could do the same thing when using the rennline version.
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Originally Posted by rockitman
what I like about the Porsche wheel guide vs Rennline is that it apparently has a tool at the end to ensure the spring wheel lock fully engages with the outer splines. I'm sure a ratchet extender could do the same thing when using the rennline version.
Yeah, I've used a 1/2" ratchet extension to play with setting the wheel lock, and it works just fine. I figured I could just use one extra tool and save myself $125.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Yeah, I've used a 1/2" ratchet extension to play with setting the wheel lock, and it works just fine. I figured I could just use one extra tool and save myself $125.
If that's the case I will buy the cheaper and lighter anodized rennline version then. Thanks for confirming.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Well, there's also the spreader to lock the brakes if you don't have a helper but those are pretty cheap (the spreader, not the helper ).

http://www.amazon.com/Irwin-Industri...iglink20410-20

Then there's the centering tool which I think is important especially if you have PCCB's. Rennline is having a 15% off Christmas sale so their tools, which are normally $350 are going for $297.50. Their centering tools are available in both aluminum and Delrin. I went with Delrin on their strong recommendation. Suncoast has the factory tool for $425.

http://www.rennline.com/Centerlock-W...oductinfo/T06/

http://www.suncoastparts.com/product...1GT3CHASSISACC

Finally there are jack stands if you need them which puts you over the $1K mark, although they're good for other uses too.

http://jackpointjackstands.com/
Why delrin centering tool ? less chance of cross threading the CL wheel hub since delrin is softer than the threads it screws into ?
Old 12-07-2014, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rockitman
Why delrin centering tool ? less chance of cross threading the CL wheel hub since delrin is softer than the threads it screws into ?
I didn't know much about Delrin so I looked it up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyoxymethylene

It has some properties like high abrasion resistance and a low coefficient of friction that I though might be useful for something that is designed to have a heavy wheel/tire sliding over it. I hadn't thought of the cross threading, but that could be an advantage.

Then I asked the guy at Rennline what he thought. He strongly suggested I get the Delrin tool; said it was a nicer piece and that Rennline was actually planning to discontinue the aluminum version. Since they were both the same price I chose Delrin. Time may tell whether it was the right decision.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
I didn't know much about Delrin so I looked it up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyoxymethylene

It has some properties like high abrasion resistance and a low coefficient of friction that I though might be useful for something that is designed to have a heavy wheel/tire sliding over it. I hadn't thought of the cross threading, but that could be an advantage.

Then I asked the guy at Rennline what he thought. He strongly suggested I get the Delrin tool; said it was a nicer piece and that Rennline was actually planning to discontinue the aluminum version. Since they were both the same price I chose Delrin. Time may tell whether it was the right decision.
cool..ordering the delrin version, just ordered the PI 3/4" torque/breaker bar combo kit too.
Old 12-07-2014, 08:41 PM
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I bought a digital torque gauge. It was half the price ($150) of a conventional wrench. It's rated between 70 and 1100 ft.lbs. I like that it can be set to whatever torque you want and has indicator lights and beeps to tell you as you approach the set torque if you can't see the display. It's 3/4" so all I needed was a breaker bar. It also works in both directions.

I haven't taken the wheels off yet but put it on the car and it seems to work fine. Maybe a bit long but its nice that it gives some room away from the car.

http://www.princessauto.com/en/detai...er/A-p8506107e
Old 12-07-2014, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Yeah, I've used a 1/2" ratchet extension to play with setting the wheel lock, and it works just fine. I figured I could just use one extra tool and save myself $125.
Don't have my car yet. But that was the trick I used on my 997.2, also a bolt head the right size would also work. The 991 GT3, manual shows a included tool, that can be used to pop the caps off (before Porsche suggested a screwdriver with rag) and the other end of the tool has the hex head to pop the lock out. Do you have this tool? I would expect it's stored with the socket.
Old 12-07-2014, 10:37 PM
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So, from reading this, no one came with a 5 lug conversion kit for 991 gt3 yet?
Too bad.
Old 12-07-2014, 10:49 PM
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So, from reading this, no one came with a 5 lug conversion kit for 991 gt3 yet?
Too bad.
Not yet. Kind of a shame. I'm sure it would sell well. I was curious how much of the cup car suspension we'd have to install to get the proper motorsport center lock.
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Not yet. Kind of a shame. I'm sure it would sell well. I was curious how much of the cup car suspension we'd have to install to get the proper motorsport center lock.
A lot. Talked to shop chassis guy about that exact thing while 991 GT3 up on lift. At a min: hubs, uprights, several links, possibly subframes, brakes may not bolt to upright due to different brakes on cups, delete of rear steer...


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