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Old 03-14-2014, 09:30 AM
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You are all missing the point I want to know now

1. What have they found so far.
2. How can they be sure they have found root cause
3. What's the fix.

Then as stakeholders we will feel better and give them the space they need to fix it.
Old 03-14-2014, 09:32 AM
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I hate being treated like a mushroom. Kept in the dark and fed bull****
Old 03-14-2014, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by gonzobreeder
You are all missing the point I want to know now

1. What have they found so far.
2. How can they be sure they have found root cause
3. What's the fix.

Then as stakeholders we will feel better and give them the space they need to fix it.

Let me have a try.

1. 2 engines have failed
2. They haven't found the cause, despite looking everywhere.
3. They'll tell you when they find the cause.
Old 03-14-2014, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kosmo
yup, hes the Edward Snowden of Porsche.
He will be granted assylum in Italy ;-)
Old 03-14-2014, 09:38 AM
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I'm sorry, but I'm not reading anything positive in the CEO's statement. It's as vague as all statements prior, as mhh mentions. And I don't want to be pessimistic, but, regardless the fix, I really don't expect any, let alone all our cars to be back on the road in April.

So I'm trying to look at the bright side, despite by frustrated to bits by this saga, which started here in the Middle East with our cars being delivered 6 months later than confirmed. I don't want to rub salt in anybody's wounds, but the only silver lining to me personally is that I decided to keep the Speciale and sell the GT3 (prior to this debacle), instead of vice versa. Sure, I probably would have made a lot of money selling the Fiat, but then I would have been left with a nice bank account and no new cars by this time. And would have missed a (Ferrari) track day at the Dubai Autodrome tomorrow!

The sad story is, similar to the delayed delivery issue over here, that my biggest frustration is not the wait. Trust me, I can live with that. It's not that I, or anybody else here, I reckon, need to use public transport now to get from A to B. By far the biggest frustration is the absent / fluffy / unreliable / self-centered communication from Porsche!

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Old 03-14-2014, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sithot
The golden rule of racing is he with the most gold rules.
I think that's what Toyota was counting on, but Brawn certainly did not.
Old 03-14-2014, 09:48 AM
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This is not good news. I really feel bad for those who have already paid for the car. I on the other hand, have only sacrificed a deposit for an allocation. I was so excited about this car and confident that PAG would have resolved or at least been more communicative with those who already dished out and took delivery. I have always loved Porsche. When my business took off, the first gift to myself was my dream car, a new 997 GT3 (I was 26 at the time). Failures and fires happen. It's understandable. But the way Porsche mishandled this has left a sour taste in my mouth. I have been refunded my deposit and am going over to Ferrari early next week to order a new 458. **** happens but we shouldn't be ****ted on.

Good luck to all! I hope you get your cars soon!
Old 03-14-2014, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RINGMEISTER27
This is not good news. I really feel bad for those who have already paid for the car. I on the other hand, have only sacrificed a deposit for an allocation. I was so excited about this car and confident that PAG would have resolved or at least been more communicative with those who already dished out and took delivery. I have always loved Porsche. When my business took off, the first gift to myself was my dream car, a new 997 GT3 (I was 26 at the time). Failures and fires happen. It's understandable. But the way Porsche mishandled this has left a sour taste in my mouth. I have been refunded my deposit and am going over to Ferrari early next week to order a new 458. **** happens but we shouldn't be ****ted on.

Good luck to all! I hope you get your cars soon!
Good luck with the new adventure!
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My take on both statement is that the problem affects all GT3 and not just a select few😢
Old 03-14-2014, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by TomTom77
….but the only silver lining to me personally is that I decided to keep the Speciale….
Avatar envy.
Old 03-14-2014, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by gonzobreeder
Does anyone know the difference between the old mezer engine and the engine block they are now using.
Old engine- slightly leaky
New engine- very leaky
Old 03-14-2014, 10:13 AM
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It's Friday in Atlanta. Anyone got Tim Quinn on hold?
Old 03-14-2014, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RINGMEISTER27
This is not good news. I really feel bad for those who have already paid for the car. I on the other hand, have only sacrificed a deposit for an allocation. I was so excited about this car and confident that PAG would have resolved or at least been more communicative with those who already dished out and took delivery. I have always loved Porsche. When my business took off, the first gift to myself was my dream car, a new 997 GT3 (I was 26 at the time). Failures and fires happen. It's understandable. But the way Porsche mishandled this has left a sour taste in my mouth. I have been refunded my deposit and am going over to Ferrari early next week to order a new 458. **** happens but we shouldn't be ****ted on. Good luck to all! I hope you get your cars soon!
Congrats on the 458!
Old 03-14-2014, 10:25 AM
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from the Bloomberg article: "“We know the reason and the problem-solving measures,” Chief Executive Officer Matthias Mueller said today at a press conference near company headquarters in Stuttgart, Germany. “We’re testing them.”
Old 03-14-2014, 10:31 AM
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If it's going to take a few months, I think the appropriate compensation for those that have already received delivery of their cars is a full refund, plus they get to keep their fixed cars for free.


You guys in the US have probably heard of class action suits. I predict some happening on this issue, but not sure if the class is large enough to be certified.


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