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Old 03-14-2014 | 07:02 AM
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This is unbelievable. I don't mind they have a problem but stopping all meaningful communication is only putting fuel on the fire. No pun intended.

It's making me very nervous How bloody bad can this problem be? It's starting to look like they do not know what to do to fix it. I'm very close to cancelling my order and I really want this car. If someone from Porsche is reading this post. Get off your A**e and start talking or you'll lose a very loyal fan.
Old 03-14-2014 | 08:00 AM
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Doesn't look encouraging as per article bellow


A Porsche spokesman has announced deliveries of the 911 GT3 could be postponed for several months until they fix the worrying fire risk issue.

About a month ago there was a report about five Porsche 911 GT3s which spontaneously combusted but it seems only 2 (out of a total of 700 units) caught fire. Several days later Porsche made an official announcement asking owners of this model to stop driving their cars until they figure out what is wrong. It seems the engine block of both cars cracked and leaked oil into the exhaust system.

Porsche spokesman Paul Ellis says the company is trying to fix the problem as quick as possible but admits the process could take a few months. Porsche acknowledges this situation is "not ideal for the company" but it seems customers are willing to wait for their cars. Ellis added that although the naturally-aspirated flat-six engine shares its fundamentals with the other motors powering the 911 range, there's "zero chance" a similar problem will occur on other models as the engine is "unique to the GT3."

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11403147...ed-for-several
Old 03-14-2014 | 08:25 AM
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"Amazingly, our customers are quite understanding as they know we are an engineering company and they know we won't make any compromises so they are prepared to be patient because they know then they cars will be indestructible," Ellis said.

I guess he's not following this thread...
Old 03-14-2014 | 08:29 AM
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He missed the memo where they should have been indestructible well before they went on sale... I doubt many will be willing to wait "months" for a fix... Here's to hoping for their sake...
Old 03-14-2014 | 09:01 AM
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If true this is really messed up
Old 03-14-2014 | 09:06 AM
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More...
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...314-34r6v.html

Some interesting one liners in there:
"...especially given the GT3 is essentially a race engine." - No it's not
"...it says it has not seen any erosion in customer loyalty and that all potential GT3 customers are willing to wait for their vehicles...." - That's about to change!
"...they are prepared to be patient because they know then they cars will be indestructible..." - Will we really know this?

I don't know guys. Life's too short to sit around and wait on Porsche indefinitely. I may be out. But I need to wait a while and see if any other developments happen.
Old 03-14-2014 | 09:29 AM
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Basically Porsche inadvertently has allowed the general public to help them beta test the 991GT3.

With all the money they are making this is obnoxiously and utterly unacceptable. I don't have a car on order thank god not - if I did I'd back out of the deal.

This looks very bad on the Germans. If this really takes months by the time it is released it will be old technology again.

Again all of you guys are all being too nice...I mean if your favourite restaurant served you a sh*t sandwich would you keep eating it? I guess a lot of you would......
Old 03-14-2014 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by sgroer
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http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...314-34r6v.html

Some interesting one liners in there:
"...especially given the GT3 is essentially a race engine." - No it's not
"...it says it has not seen any erosion in customer loyalty and that all potential GT3 customers are willing to wait for their vehicles...." - That's about to change!
"...they are prepared to be patient because they know then they cars will be indestructible..." - Will we really know this?

I don't know guys. Life's too short to sit around and wait on Porsche indefinitely. I may be out. But I need to wait a while and see if any other developments happen.
The author Andrew Maclean states, "Reports have indicated the two cars that were involved caught fire after the engine block cracked and leaked oil onto the hot exhaust system, but Porsche is not willing to comment on any specifics."

First I'd heard of a report that the block cracked though there has been supposition that a connecting rod failed.

Then he goes into the interview with Paul Ellis, Public Relations Manager at Porsche Cars Australia. The brand erosion comment is not a quote, but rather he obliquely references Porsche.

From the context it is difficult to see if Paul Ellis is answering with respect to Porsche Cars Austrailia or Porsche in general. Likely the former as that's his pervue and authority.

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Old 03-14-2014 | 09:37 AM
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Perhaps they should have kept the race proven engine like everyone on this forum has said. Stick some new heads on it throw some dfi at it and get that thing spinning to 9 k.

Maybe that's what they are doing. how good would that be! Better still lets have the 4 litre.
Old 03-14-2014 | 09:37 AM
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Long day ahead...I keep on hoping that these are speculations and that we will get more information and better news today.......
Old 03-14-2014 | 09:38 AM
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The GT3 could become even more exciting. What are the chances.
Old 03-14-2014 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by reidry
The author Andrew Maclean states, "Reports have indicated the two cars that were involved caught fire after the engine block cracked and leaked oil onto the hot exhaust system, but Porsche is not willing to comment on any specifics."

First I'd heard of a report that the block cracked though there has been supposition that a connecting rod failed.

Then he goes into the interview with Paul Ellis, Public Relations Manager at Porsche Cars Australia. The brand erosion comment is not a quote, but rather he obliquely references Porsche.

From the context it is difficult to see if Paul Ellis is answering with respect to Porsche Cars Austrailia or Porsche in general. Likely the former as that's his pervue and authority.

Ryan
Agree - some of this is just the writer trying to sensationalize it, but even Paul's quotes are pretty damning. I'm not convinced this release of info was sponsored by PAG... It would seem an official word from them would have been the right avenue. This will, if nothing else, force their hand. Wonder how long Paul Ellis will be around
Old 03-14-2014 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Fadi1
Long day ahead...I keep on hoping that these are speculations and that we will get more information and better news today.......
Porsche spokesman - hardly speculation.
Old 03-14-2014 | 09:39 AM
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Sounds like they are going to replace the motors lets have a vote for the 4 litre.
Old 03-14-2014 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Polarcharger
Crisis management 101: if you have the answer, you provide it. If you "need a "couple of days", you name a specific date (not "The middle to end of next week"). Customers will be in meltdown mode with even greater speculation if this individual doesn't definitively address the situation by Wednesday. Further, an opportunity to provide some certainty has been missed. Better yet, make no such commitment while communicating a sense of urgency and optimism. While perhaps not a big deal, Porsche can and should do better.
While it's too early to comment on the competence of Porsche engineering, it's not too soon to say Porsche has no clue how to manage a crisis. Throwing out misinformation from a variety of unqualified sources, making unkept promises, and emphasizing the company versus it's customers in messaging (it's "not ideal for the company") is woefully incompetent.

While I am not directly impacted by this issue, I empathize with you, and am even less impressed by Porsche than I was following the F1 Arrows debacle of two decades ago.


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