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Old 02-05-2015, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by WSH
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EVERYTIME one of these "price in Europe" posts comes up, everyone automatically does a current currency conversion and comes up with a ridiculous North American $$ figure. It has NEVER happened that way
Exactly - if you compare prices on the German website in Euros (including VAT) against the US website in USD, we pay fewer Dollars than the Germans pay Euros. And it's been that way even when the dollar was weak.

If the German price is a little over 180k Euros, US price will probably be $175k-179k
Old 02-05-2015, 02:52 PM
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I am hoping MSRP in Canada is below 200K. Somewhere between 195,000-199,800.
I am also hoping PCCB and Bucket seat are standard.
Old 02-05-2015, 05:01 PM
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If it really is 470Nm.. that's about 346lb-ft. Seems like too high of a figure for 3.8L...
Old 02-05-2015, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tqevo
If it really is 470Nm.. that's about 346lb-ft. Seems like too high of a figure for 3.8L...
Correct - 4.0L (just as all the rumors have indicated) is the perfect displacement to produce that much torque. Nearly identical TQ/Liter ratio as GT3.

If the power is rated at 500, you can be confident that it makes a comfortable amount more than that on the dyno. AFAIK, the GT3 already makes 500.

GT cars are traditionally rated very conservatively.
Old 02-05-2015, 06:00 PM
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What did gt3 dyno at in real life?.. I would be interested in extrapolating for the gt4
Old 02-05-2015, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
What did gt3 dyno at in real life?.. I would be interested in extrapolating for the gt4
All I heard was that of the engines pulled from the line and dyno'd (pre-recall and rebuild), none made less than 500hp.
Old 02-05-2015, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
What did gt3 dyno at in real life?.. I would be interested in extrapolating for the gt4
Originally Posted by GrantG
All I heard was that of the engines pulled from the line and dyno'd (pre-recall and rebuild), none made less than 500hp.
That's consistent with what AP said to EVO in the original roll-out interview for the GT3.

FWIW, I used 2 different HP calculators based on the 126mph trap speed and 3197lb curb weight recorded for the GT3 by C&D. One computed to 500HP and the other to 512HP. I think it's a fair assumption that the quoted 475HP figure is conservative.

Once verified performance figures are available for the GT4 we should be able to get a better idea of it's true output.
Old 02-05-2015, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Exactly - if you compare prices on the German website in Euros (including VAT) against the US website in USD, we pay fewer Dollars than the Germans pay Euros. And it's been that way even when the dollar was weak. If the German price is a little over 180k Euros, US price will probably be $175k-179k
The strong dollar might help US dealers to get more allocations!
I did a little work for Volvo a couple of years back and they actually lost money on every xc90 they sold in the US because of the weak dollar.
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Correct - 4.0L (just as all the rumors have indicated) is the perfect displacement to produce that much torque. Nearly identical TQ/Liter ratio as GT3.

If the power is rated at 500, you can be confident that it makes a comfortable amount more than that on the dyno. AFAIK, the GT3 already makes 500.

GT cars are traditionally rated very conservatively.
the equation does not change
will be (if confirmed) always +25HP than current GT3 no less no more

yeah all tracking focused
BUT where the hell was with his brain Hatz when said a brand new engine basis for 991.2 as well
wtf the 991 has already a 9a1 what new engine??
Old 02-05-2015, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fxz
BUT where the hell was with his brain Hatz when said a brand new engine basis for 991.2 as well
wtf the 991 has already a 9a1 what new engine??
9A1 isn't new though. At least, not by today's standards. It was introduced at the beginning of the 997.2 run. That's a long time ago.
Old 02-05-2015, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AC SATCO
At the crank obviously.............................
Right, on an engine dyno (before installed in car), not chassis dyno.
Old 02-05-2015, 11:15 PM
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The 996.3 was underestimated at 375Hp at the crank. Dyno's showed 400+ in reality...
Old 02-06-2015, 11:24 AM
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I have to thank another guy writing here much more than me. I don't mention him since I don't know if he likes or not to be mentioned...but he informed me yesterday about this opportunity and I can now confirm that soon some of us will be invited to see a digital presentation of the car . I suggest you to check with your dealers in your Country if you can get a similar invitation.

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Old 02-06-2015, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Selvatico
I have to thank another guy writing here much more than me. I don't mention him since I don't know if he likes or not to be mentioned...but he informed me yesterday about this opportunity and I can now confirm that soon some of us will be invited to see a digital presentation of the car . I suggest you to check with your dealers in your Country if you can get a similar invitation.
Selvatico, you can explain? presentation digital by dvd or invitation Porsche?
I'm intersted about that.
Thanks
Old 02-06-2015, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Selvatico
I have to thank another guy writing here much more than me. I don't mention him since I don't know if he likes or not to be mentioned...but he informed me yesterday about this opportunity and I can now confirm that soon some of us will be invited to see a digital presentation of the car . I suggest you to check with your dealers in your Country if you can get a similar invitation.
i've a "secret" meeting at my dealer the 11, next week,about the RS...


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