New C7 Z06
#481
#482
Haha! Actually, the funny thing is, when I had the Ford GT, the Ford people treated me like royalty and bent over backwards fro me. I wonder if it will be similar, especially during the first 12 months of this car when its still hot.
#483
I havn't driven the new vett, but regardless how fast it is, does it still feel like a bloated turd? Last time I drove a vett, it didn't really even feel or respond like a sports car. Crazy fast when you stomped on it yes, but felt heavy, little agility and turned like a slug.
For those who have driven the new car, how does it FEEL on the road?
For those who have driven the new car, how does it FEEL on the road?
#486
Yep. 285 or 295. I forget. Rears are 335! And they are Sport Cup 2. When I first got the car, I looked at the tires, and I thought, "Why are they already bald?" Haha! Then I realized what they are. Reminds me of there GT3RS. Supersoft and almost no tread.
I remember the ZR1 was supposed to already have Brembo ceramics from an Enzo or FXX. Wonder if these ones are even "badder" ***!
I remember the ZR1 was supposed to already have Brembo ceramics from an Enzo or FXX. Wonder if these ones are even "badder" ***!
335/25ZR20 Rears
#487
I havn't driven the new vett, but regardless how fast it is, does it still feel like a bloated turd? Last time I drove a vett, it didn't really even feel or respond like a sports car. Crazy fast when you stomped on it yes, but felt heavy, little agility and turned like a slug.
For those who have driven the new car, how does it FEEL on the road?
For those who have driven the new car, how does it FEEL on the road?
Had a C6 Z06. That car was much better. Seats were still floppy and interior still not up to par with the Europeans, but it was FAST, and it stopped and cornered too.
Now this C7 Z06 has completely exceeded my expectations. The moment I saw it at my dealer, I noticed the build quality was miles better than the previous generation. Interestingly, I also noticed it top be built better and tighter than the regular C7 that were there. Leather stitched dash and doors, alcantara seat backs and shifter and steering wheel. Carbon Fiber and aluminum trim everywhere. Absolutely no creaks or rattles.
A fun fact: I buy Pro Clips for my cars to mount my phones. These are custom designed mounts that go into certain gaps in between panels in the interior. I have had them for the 991GT3, 997's, Panamera, M4, etc, so I naturally bought one for the Vette before I even got it. So one night after I got the car, I decided to install it the car. To my surprise, I couldn't get them into the gaps. Turns out, the leather wrapped panels that meet the center console are so tight, there was no way for me to push them in. I tried hard, but there was no way I was able to push it in without possibly damaging the leather. So I just left it alone and now I just put the phone in the cup holder, LOL. All these years, and all these different cars (except Ferrari which I have not tried), I have never encountered this problem. I attest that to a new found tightness in tolerance in the build quality of this car for Chevrolet. Good job!
Straight line, its as fast as ever, and actually a lot faster than that! LOL! It brakes way faster than I expect with these monster Brembo Ceramics from a Ferrari Enzo. The only car that braked like that in my past experience was a 2007 GT3 RS with aftermarket Kinesis F110 1-piece forged wheels. These two cars braked and brakes so well that I ended up overestimating the distance and actually have to give it gas to get to the dip or the corner.
Steering is not bad. Not great like the old 911's, but in line with today's cars.
In turns, the car doesn't lean, even though it rides so well. Kind of like the 458, except the 458 leans more. Grips like there is no tomorrow.
And yes, it sounds amazing. That was the most impressive thing to me when I first saw the car at the dealership, and that was just starting and idling. In motion, its even better. The 458 is just an abrupt valve-influenced sound. Its like quiet...quiet...quiet...then Bahhhhhh at 4000 rpm. Sounds Ok at 4000 and above, but very monotonous. I think the GT3 has more of a change in pitch, but its still not as alluring as the Z06 which sounds more musical, yet the pulses are so tight that you don't hear the old muscle car gurgle while in motion. Almost like a jet engine, except that its coming from the exhaust. Reminds me of the Ferrari 550 with a Tubi. Or an Aston Martin Vanquish. I have no intention in changing the exhaust for sound at all, which is saying something.
Just my opinion, but I am thoroughly impressed by this car and the price they can sell it at. Without the Z07 package ($9000), it is the price of a loaded Cayman S, and not that loaded either. Even without regard to the price, it is a compelling choice for anyone looking to buy a sports car for around $90,000, give or take $10,000.
#489
I havn't driven the new vett, but regardless how fast it is, does it still feel like a bloated turd? Last time I drove a vett, it didn't really even feel or respond like a sports car. Crazy fast when you stomped on it yes, but felt heavy, little agility and turned like a slug.
For those who have driven the new car, how does it FEEL on the road?
For those who have driven the new car, how does it FEEL on the road?
Did it feel heavy? I suppose it did, but more importantly it felt big, with that long-hood you feel like you're piloting an Mercedes SLS.
But that said, I can't say that I think the GT3 is light. Nor is it heavy. To me, it's well-balanced. Sort of in a "Goldilocks" fashion.
#490
Its about 3500 pounds, so it is heavier then a GT3, but I think its lighter than a turbo S.
The sound is intoxicating. Rev match is my new best friend, because it makes the exhaust sing every time I downshift. I don't know how any car enthusiast can enjoy a Tesla. Its fast, but absolutely no sound except for electric motor whine.
The sound is intoxicating. Rev match is my new best friend, because it makes the exhaust sing every time I downshift. I don't know how any car enthusiast can enjoy a Tesla. Its fast, but absolutely no sound except for electric motor whine.
#491
I had a C5 Z06. It was terrible. Absurdly cheap build and horrible to me in many ways. I gave it to my car broker in 24 hours to get rid of it. That even for me was a record!
Had a C6 Z06. That car was much better. Seats were still floppy and interior still not up to par with the Europeans, but it was FAST, and it stopped and cornered too.
Now this C7 Z06 has completely exceeded my expectations. The moment I saw it at my dealer, I noticed the build quality was miles better than the previous generation. Interestingly, I also noticed it top be built better and tighter than the regular C7 that were there. Leather stitched dash and doors, alcantara seat backs and shifter and steering wheel. Carbon Fiber and aluminum trim everywhere. Absolutely no creaks or rattles.
A fun fact: I buy Pro Clips for my cars to mount my phones. These are custom designed mounts that go into certain gaps in between panels in the interior. I have had them for the 991GT3, 997's, Panamera, M4, etc, so I naturally bought one for the Vette before I even got it. So one night after I got the car, I decided to install it the car. To my surprise, I couldn't get them into the gaps. Turns out, the leather wrapped panels that meet the center console are so tight, there was no way for me to push them in. I tried hard, but there was no way I was able to push it in without possibly damaging the leather. So I just left it alone and now I just put the phone in the cup holder, LOL. All these years, and all these different cars (except Ferrari which I have not tried), I have never encountered this problem. I attest that to a new found tightness in tolerance in the build quality of this car for Chevrolet. Good job!
Straight line, its as fast as ever, and actually a lot faster than that! LOL! It brakes way faster than I expect with these monster Brembo Ceramics from a Ferrari Enzo. The only car that braked like that in my past experience was a 2007 GT3 RS with aftermarket Kinesis F110 1-piece forged wheels. These two cars braked and brakes so well that I ended up overestimating the distance and actually have to give it gas to get to the dip or the corner.
Steering is not bad. Not great like the old 911's, but in line with today's cars.
In turns, the car doesn't lean, even though it rides so well. Kind of like the 458, except the 458 leans more. Grips like there is no tomorrow.
And yes, it sounds amazing. That was the most impressive thing to me when I first saw the car at the dealership, and that was just starting and idling. In motion, its even better. The 458 is just an abrupt valve-influenced sound. Its like quiet...quiet...quiet...then Bahhhhhh at 4000 rpm. Sounds Ok at 4000 and above, but very monotonous. I think the GT3 has more of a change in pitch, but its still not as alluring as the Z06 which sounds more musical, yet the pulses are so tight that you don't hear the old muscle car gurgle while in motion. Almost like a jet engine, except that its coming from the exhaust. Reminds me of the Ferrari 550 with a Tubi. Or an Aston Martin Vanquish. I have no intention in changing the exhaust for sound at all, which is saying something.
Just my opinion, but I am thoroughly impressed by this car and the price they can sell it at. Without the Z07 package ($9000), it is the price of a loaded Cayman S, and not that loaded either. Even without regard to the price, it is a compelling choice for anyone looking to buy a sports car for around $90,000, give or take $10,000.
Had a C6 Z06. That car was much better. Seats were still floppy and interior still not up to par with the Europeans, but it was FAST, and it stopped and cornered too.
Now this C7 Z06 has completely exceeded my expectations. The moment I saw it at my dealer, I noticed the build quality was miles better than the previous generation. Interestingly, I also noticed it top be built better and tighter than the regular C7 that were there. Leather stitched dash and doors, alcantara seat backs and shifter and steering wheel. Carbon Fiber and aluminum trim everywhere. Absolutely no creaks or rattles.
A fun fact: I buy Pro Clips for my cars to mount my phones. These are custom designed mounts that go into certain gaps in between panels in the interior. I have had them for the 991GT3, 997's, Panamera, M4, etc, so I naturally bought one for the Vette before I even got it. So one night after I got the car, I decided to install it the car. To my surprise, I couldn't get them into the gaps. Turns out, the leather wrapped panels that meet the center console are so tight, there was no way for me to push them in. I tried hard, but there was no way I was able to push it in without possibly damaging the leather. So I just left it alone and now I just put the phone in the cup holder, LOL. All these years, and all these different cars (except Ferrari which I have not tried), I have never encountered this problem. I attest that to a new found tightness in tolerance in the build quality of this car for Chevrolet. Good job!
Straight line, its as fast as ever, and actually a lot faster than that! LOL! It brakes way faster than I expect with these monster Brembo Ceramics from a Ferrari Enzo. The only car that braked like that in my past experience was a 2007 GT3 RS with aftermarket Kinesis F110 1-piece forged wheels. These two cars braked and brakes so well that I ended up overestimating the distance and actually have to give it gas to get to the dip or the corner.
Steering is not bad. Not great like the old 911's, but in line with today's cars.
In turns, the car doesn't lean, even though it rides so well. Kind of like the 458, except the 458 leans more. Grips like there is no tomorrow.
And yes, it sounds amazing. That was the most impressive thing to me when I first saw the car at the dealership, and that was just starting and idling. In motion, its even better. The 458 is just an abrupt valve-influenced sound. Its like quiet...quiet...quiet...then Bahhhhhh at 4000 rpm. Sounds Ok at 4000 and above, but very monotonous. I think the GT3 has more of a change in pitch, but its still not as alluring as the Z06 which sounds more musical, yet the pulses are so tight that you don't hear the old muscle car gurgle while in motion. Almost like a jet engine, except that its coming from the exhaust. Reminds me of the Ferrari 550 with a Tubi. Or an Aston Martin Vanquish. I have no intention in changing the exhaust for sound at all, which is saying something.
Just my opinion, but I am thoroughly impressed by this car and the price they can sell it at. Without the Z07 package ($9000), it is the price of a loaded Cayman S, and not that loaded either. Even without regard to the price, it is a compelling choice for anyone looking to buy a sports car for around $90,000, give or take $10,000.
I was able to test drive the C7 Z06 7MT, and it was grippy as hell, no body roll whatsoever, stupid-silly low-end torque (almost too much).
Did it feel heavy? I suppose it did, but more importantly it felt big, with that long-hood you feel like you're piloting an Mercedes SLS.
But that said, I can't say that I think the GT3 is light. Nor is it heavy. To me, it's well-balanced. Sort of in a "Goldilocks" fashion.
Did it feel heavy? I suppose it did, but more importantly it felt big, with that long-hood you feel like you're piloting an Mercedes SLS.
But that said, I can't say that I think the GT3 is light. Nor is it heavy. To me, it's well-balanced. Sort of in a "Goldilocks" fashion.
The thing about the GT3, I just love how far forward I am, close to front wheels, feeling the road and where I'm turning, very connected feeling. The Gt3 actually feels much smaller than it is, not vice versa with the vette. Who knows if they ever do a mid engine vette like they've been talking about forever, I'll give that try.
The whole fred flintstones, sitting so far back, vett/viper is just not how I like to expereince a sports car.
Who know, perhaps if I gain 50lbs, start waring gold chains, never actually track my car and spend all my time cleaning it and hanging out at cars and coffee, I'll be ready to be a vett customer!!
I kid I kid, just keeping the stereotype alive!
#492
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html
Z06 only 0.1 seconds faster than an oversteering GT3 around Big Willow, the fastest track in the west. Can you say overheeeeeat?
Z06 only 0.1 seconds faster than an oversteering GT3 around Big Willow, the fastest track in the west. Can you say overheeeeeat?
#493
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In case it hasn't already been posted: http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=497408
Exec summary: GT3 > Z06
Exec summary: GT3 > Z06
#495
For what it's worth, the new Z06 does a face plant (sort of) against Godzilla at Willow Springs in MotorTrends latest comparo.
http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1504_2015_chevrolet_corvette_z06_vs_2015_nissan_gt_r_nismo_comparison/
http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1504_2015_chevrolet_corvette_z06_vs_2015_nissan_gt_r_nismo_comparison/