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Old 08-25-2014, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mgent
Any chance the slow release of the RS is a result of this? Some last minute tweaks to step up performance?
I think the RS is still working on heat dissipation from the turbos.
Old 08-25-2014, 05:52 PM
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^ chuckle. Well played.

The RS is on the '15/'16 schedule set for it years ago. Gen 2 991, "tasty bits" unique to the moniker, "quick" for the weekend enthusiast, and Trakcar will fit.
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http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2015/1/2...inutes-7725122


6:59:13


I don't believe it yet,but it would be pretty incredible...
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...and then is it a track car?

Other forums have mentioned some interesting topics regarding tracking.
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Originally Posted by ATXGT3
The point is if this Ring time is true,since many care so much about lap times... Personally,I don't care about lap times nor the Z06...
Before posting that link,maybe you should look at the stop sale thread right in the Sticky section of this forum...just sayin'...
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Originally Posted by neanicu
The point is if this Ring time is true,since many care so much about lap times... Personally,I don't care about lap times or the Z06...
Before posting that link,maybe you should look at the stop sale thread right in the Sticky section of this forum...just sayin'...
Okay I'll revise link--and just mention that it does seem as though (per other forum posts in the past day) there are now transmission issues being reported by owners after tracking Z06.

I think it's great if they reported a solid time. No bashing here my friend.

Geeshhh...little sensitive.
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Originally Posted by neanicu
http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2015/1/2...inutes-7725122


6:59:13


I don't believe it yet,but it would be pretty incredible...
Bloody hell. Well we knew it would be quicker than the GT-R, so that's only about 5 seconds quicker than I was expecting, but still. Damn...

So with no GT2 how does Porsche respond? I figured the GT3 RS in the low 7:0X, but sub 7 minutes seems tough both technically with a normally aspirated engine and from a marketing point of view. Perhaps they'll need to uncork the 918 for a flier again after all?

When the GT-R ran sub 7:30 Porsche felt compelled to beat it with the GT2 RS. Is it finally time to call it a day with the whole 'ring time business? Or are the gloves about to come off?

Interesting times...
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Originally Posted by neanicu
6:59:13.
Thanks for the link. If true, GM deserves a ton of credit for a remarkable achievement. It would dispel the just-fast-in-a-straight-line critique.
Old 01-28-2015, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Petevb
Bloody hell. Well we knew it would be quicker than the GT-R, so that's only about 5 seconds quicker than I was expecting, but still. Damn...

So with no GT2 how does Porsche respond? I figured the GT3 RS in the low 7:0X, but sub 7 minutes seems tough both technically with a normally aspirated engine and from a marketing point of view. Perhaps they'll need to uncork the 918 for a flier again after all?

When the GT-R ran sub 7:30 Porsche felt compelled to beat it with the GT2 RS. Is it finally time to call it a day with the whole 'ring time business? Or are the gloves about to come off?

Interesting times...
Assuming it's a true lap time (i.e., not the stunt that McLaren pulled with the P1 "jigsaw" 'Ring time), I wonder how repeatable it is.

And I wonder how repeatable any of the 'Ring times are for any of the manufacturers, Porsche included.

Could the 918 post back-to-back, consecutive sub-7 minute 'Ring times?

Could the C7 Z06? Assuming it did it legitimately the first time?

Because that's been the elephant in the room for Chevy with the Z06. The diminutive 1.7L Eaton R1740 TVS supercharger on the LT4 overheats (which is really undisputed) and the car apparently goes into limp mode if pushed too hard, for too long, without a rest break.

Interesting times indeed.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Could the 918 post back-to-back, consecutive sub-7 minute 'Ring times?
We know it can't. Or at least we know the second lap will be slower than the first since the battery will be done- there is speculation that Porsche is sitting on a sub 6:50 time as a trump card if someone else beats them, so there is no guarantee the 2nd lap wouldn't be sub 7:00 if they were pushing.

That said, I'm not sure how much I care. For the running I do most often the difference between 7 minutes of flat-out and 30 isn't all that critical. Thus the ring seems a decent practical yardstick for a street car- you'll never manage to push it that hard on a public road. For a pure track car you'd want better, but then you should probably be looking beyond street cars, shouldn't you? Not sure, but it seems that way...
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Originally Posted by <3mph
Thanks for the link. If true, GM deserves a ton of credit for a remarkable achievement. It would dispel the just-fast-in-a-straight-line critique.
It's not just fast in a straight line. Trust me. I have one. It brakes ridiculously, it grips like glue and doesn't lean in turns, kind of like my Panamera GTS with PDCC, but more so.

I think it posted a time on VIR that was 2 seconds faster than a 918.
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Originally Posted by Petevb
We know it can't. Or at least we know the second lap will be slower than the first since the battery will be done- there is speculation that Porsche is sitting on a sub 6:50 time as a trump card if someone else beats them, so there is no guarantee the 2nd lap wouldn't be sub 7:00 if they were pushing.
991 GT3 RS perhaps?

Originally Posted by Petevb
That said, I'm not sure how much I care. For the running I do most often the difference between 7 minutes of flat-out and 30 isn't all that critical. Thus the ring seems a decent practical yardstick for a street car- you'll never manage to push it that hard on a public road. For a pure track car you'd want better, but then you should probably be looking beyond street cars, shouldn't you? Not sure, but it seems that way...
No disagreement, but at some point one crosses the line of rigging a time versus something that's legit.

I suppose if anyone was brave (and/or stupid) enough to take the Ariel Atom V8 to the 'Ring, it might shatter the 6 minute mark. But would it be repeatable? Car might be able to do it again, but not sure the driver would ...

And for what it's worth, the Atom V8 at the 'Ring.

Old 01-28-2015, 02:06 PM
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Its just a yardstick, like all the other numbers on a road test. Who is really going to launch a car from dead stop to 1/4 mile on pubic roads. Its just for reference as to what a car is capable of doing.

However, if I didn't care about those yardsticks, I would be driving a Prius. Wait a minute....I still wouldn't drive that! LOL!
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Originally Posted by <3mph
Thanks for the link. If true, GM deserves a ton of credit for a remarkable achievement. It would dispel the just-fast-in-a-straight-line critique.
Since the C5 Z06, the vettes have been anything but straight line heroes. It's crazy how long stigma's last.
Old 01-28-2015, 02:59 PM
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That sub 7 sec ring time was just disowned by Chevrolet

http://jalopnik.com/corvette-chief-e...ime-1682322557


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