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Have you driven both? The .1 and .2 RS feels VERY different then 992 GT3 when I drove them. Perhaps a 992 GT3 with some exhaust mods would feel different? It was a bit too refined and not raw enough (short test drive though)
I currently have a .2 3RS and a 992 GT3. I agree that the personality of the two cars is quite different. 3RS is closer to a cup car you can drive on the road, GT3 is more refined. Both are great cars, but I think the 3RS is a more special and valuable car.
My sight has been set on a .2 for all the functional advantages that come with the .2, but this black on black .1 beauty is one of those specs that made my heart skip a beat.
Ridiculously low miles and CPO are the best parts. Personally think the price is a bit high as there are other .1's under 200 right now. The CPO will give you peace on mind for sure though. If you plan on tracking the car, steel's are not a deal breaker IMO. If you keep looking you might find a better deal without CPO. I see lots of .1's on the market right now. There is a LO on FB right now for 188.000 but it has 12k miles
My sight has been set on a .2 for all the functional advantages that come with the .2, but this black on black .1 beauty is one of those specs that made my heart skip a beat.
IMO, at $220k, I'd have a tough time as the delta to a .2 RS is significantly closed. Also, black was a "free" color with the .2 RS and not baked into the price as PTS .1 RS. Plus, easier to find a black .2
Plus all the engine stuff which we don't have to dig up. I think this car would be more appealing at ~190k
How much discount would you all put on a car that originated in Canada? 6500 miles 1 owner with CPO and Ultraviolet which MSRP of around $213k. I was thinking that car should be low 200's in current market?
How much discount would you all put on a car that originated in Canada? 6500 miles 1 owner with CPO and Ultraviolet which MSRP of around $213k. I was thinking that car should be low 200's in current market?
If you are the seller, then none LOL. As a buyer, I think it's realistically minimal if anything, maybe 5% tops, assuming it was imported correctly (analog gauge change from "!" to "BRAKE" and kmh to mph, etc.). All the heavy lifting was already also done with duty, customs clearance, and shipping, so that's a bonus. I talked to a Porsche and P-car consignment shop about this last year and the general consensus was that the older the car gets, the less important the Canadian origin becomes. The Porsche dealer also told me that the Canadian origin is no barrier to CPO'ing, so it seems that at least Porsche NA agrees that the cars are effectively the same.
The exchange rate is good and the GT market is very reasonable price-wise in Canada. Smart money would seem to suggest that we'll see more Canadian GT cars in the US moving forward.
I would never purchase the inferior valve train GT3 that only survived a half cycle before being completely redesigned. Reduced engine RPM and DLC/oiling band aids aside, it's still an inferior and compromised head design. Hard pass.
I don't know about "never" as that is a strong word in any context. For example, does the motor now render the R models to the fate of "never"--its the same design as the 991.1 RS after all. I do agree that Porsche was caught in quite the quandary with the 991.1 GT3 having originally marketed the car heavily on the 9k rev feature--and then the great work of many on this very forum demonstrated it was NOT a 9K design as you point out. Porsche took their lumps, stood up and did the right thing with the extended warranty. And then they were further obligated to -- gulp -- reduce the advertised rev limit in the .1 RS car to below 9k to honestly market the car in a manner consistent with the actual sub 9k redline design. Indeed the heads are "inferior" but in my mind only to the .2 redesign which meets/exceeds the originally intended goal of being able to market the vaunted 9k redline. I don't think the design merits it be tossed on the junk heap of history or that it draw a strident "no way" from everyone considering these cars. For it is still a monster motor if run in the range consistent with its inherent limitations --which Porsche to their credit has publicly and painfully (from a financial standpoint) admitted. With the reduced rev limits imposed on the .1 RS, I have not seen on this forum or others the devastating issues that occurred with the .1GT3. If I am wrong please tell me so I can sell mine immediately!
My sight has been set on a .2 for all the functional advantages that come with the .2, but this black on black .1 beauty is one of those specs that made my heart skip a beat.
Great looking car and a fairly unique color for the .1 RS. I personally like the front clip and more demure aero of the .1 RS vs .2 updates though I may be in the minority. In addition, because I have wanted a Riviera blue P car since my Dad had one when I was a kid, the .1RS offered PTS options that disappeared for the .2. I hope you find one that makes your heart skip a beat as you said--that is really all that matters.
Thoughts on this driver GT3? I went this past weekend to take a look at it, definitely clean from a visual perspective but the mileage and the E-engine makes me super nervous. The owner is known at the Porsche dealership and he never tracked the car, only utilized it for commuting from Napa to Orinda since he wanted to use the Carpool lane w/ only 2-seats. I want a drivers car, so I don't care too much about the mileage if it was serviced regularly and this one has been.
Worried about the engine and warranty expiring middle of this year. Should I purchase it and take it to the track, w/ 76K on the odometer if the FF's are going to go, they're going to go without much track use I'm thinking. Thoughts?
An E0 engine with 75K mikes? Impossible This forum would make you believe that E0 only makes it to 15k miles, and every 991.1 GT3 / RS engine will fail by 20k.
I don't know about "never" as that is a strong word in any context. For example, does the motor now render the R models to the fate of "never"--its the same design as the 991.1 RS after all. I do agree that Porsche was caught in quite the quandary with the 991.1 GT3 having originally marketed the car heavily on the 9k rev feature--and then the great work of many on this very forum demonstrated it was NOT a 9K design as you point out. Porsche took their lumps, stood up and did the right thing with the extended warranty. And then they were further obligated to -- gulp -- reduce the advertised rev limit in the .1 RS car to below 9k to honestly market the car in a manner consistent with the actual sub 9k redline design. Indeed the heads are "inferior" but in my mind only to the .2 redesign which meets/exceeds the originally intended goal of being able to market the vaunted 9k redline. I don't think the design merits it be tossed on the junk heap of history or that it draw a strident "no way" from everyone considering these cars. For it is still a monster motor if run in the range consistent with its inherent limitations --which Porsche to their credit has publicly and painfully (from a financial standpoint) admitted. With the reduced rev limits imposed on the .1 RS, I have not seen on this forum or others the devastating issues that occurred with the .1GT3. If I am wrong please tell me so I can sell mine immediately!
I did a lot of researches on .1 RSs. I found 1 or 2 cases with misfires on .1 RSs, that the engine got replaced. There was no follow up if it was a finger follower issue, but generally seems to be very low. 1 was a G0 pre-final revision, the other unknown what G0 revision.If you run a good oil on the .1 RS, and change it often it appears the risk is low, and probably not something that should keep you up at night. There was a .1 Rs with 120K miles on facebook, daily driver. Engine replaced once at 50k due to oil pressure issues, but not finger follower issues. IT was the final G0+ Engine (Aka G6).
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