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You mean the inflation in Europe wasn't caused by Joe? But all the TV ads for the republican candidates tell me its Joe Biden and even Tony Evers fault... Who knew, Tony Evers had such an impact on Europe!
Seriously though, I believe the transportation cost spike increases that occurred 12-18 months ago (containers going from $2k to upwards of $20k), were a large reason for real inflation. Depending on the items being produced and shipped, this increased the cost of goods by 5-30% in my business, and that was passed directly to the consumer; this occurred in nearly every consumer goods product that required overseas transportation. The transportations costs started normalizing a few months ago, and we'll continue to see inflation decline. European inflation definitely now also being impacted and driven by increased energy costs, which is why the Euro dropped below $1 US
I agree though, overall costs will not be back to 2019 levels.
The biggest inflationary factor in Europe right now is energy costs. Europe quickly learning that strategy is required when fundamentally transitioning energy sources, not blind political agenda.
You mean the inflation in Europe wasn't caused by Joe? But all the TV ads for the republican candidates tell me its Joe Biden and even Tony Evers fault... Who knew, Tony Evers had such an impact on Europe!
Seriously though, I believe the transportation cost spike increases that occurred 12-18 months ago (containers going from $2k to upwards of $20k), were a large reason for real inflation. Depending on the items being produced and shipped, this increased the cost of goods by 5-30% in my business, and that was passed directly to the consumer; this occurred in nearly every consumer goods product that required overseas transportation. The transportations costs started normalizing a few months ago, and we'll continue to see inflation decline. European inflation definitely now also being impacted and driven by increased energy costs, which is why the Euro dropped below $1 US
I agree though, overall costs will not be back to 2019 levels.
funny how the nations who produce their own oil/are energy independent arent having the same inflation levels
The biggest inflationary factor in Europe right now is energy costs. Europe quickly learning that strategy is required when fundamentally transitioning energy sources, not blind political agenda.
The falling euro also is not helping them much. Too bad the cost of a new Porsche hasn’t dropped with the euro.
funny how the nations who produce their own oil/are energy independent arent having the same inflation levels
Think we just have too many cars in for US, and we consume a lot of the black gold. Not sure you would like to live in any of the below countries other than Canada. (:
Think we just have too many cars in for US, and we consume a lot of the black gold. Not sure you would like to live in any of the below countries other than Canada. (:
good table. True we have more cars per capita I think. I’d probably be content in the first 2 countries if I was affluent there. My thoughts are that we still buy more foreign oil than we should. I think Canada, Colombia, Mexico, Russia, and Canada sell us a lot.
good table. True we have more cars per capita I think. I’d probably be content in the first 2 countries if I was affluent there. My thoughts are that we still buy more foreign oil than we should. I think Canada, Colombia, Mexico, Russia, and Canada sell us a lot.
Fore sure, I was being a tad funny on the cars but true. Use to live in Europe which has a great public transportation system you don’t need a car, and we in the US have the worst public transportation system of industrialized nations which is the major problem decades of no investment. The only country I would live in on that list is Canada, and the others not sure you will have many human rights that’s afforded here. By the way we still have some of the cheapest gas in the world, but capitalism the oil companies will profit on demand which is their right I have zero problem with it. Their margins are less than 15%, and no where close Apple close to 30% as people like 1k dollar phones made in China go figure. My last rant how many big SUV’s you see on the interstate driving 90, and bi*ch about gas, and they buy a Starbucks at 6.00 dollars. The world is just comical now ….
Fore sure, I was being a tad funny on the cars but true. Use to live in Europe which has a great public transportation system you don’t need a car, and we in the US have the worst public transportation system of industrialized nations which is the major problem decades of no investment. The only country I would live in on that list is Canada, and the others not sure you will have many human rights that’s afforded here. By the way we still have some of the cheapest gas in the world, but capitalism the oil companies will profit on demand which is their right I have zero problem with it. Their margins are less than 15%, and no where close Apple close to 30% as people like 1k dollar phones made in China go figure. My last rant how many big SUV’s you see on the interstate driving 90, and bi*ch about gas, and they buy a Starbucks at 6.00 dollars. The world is just comical now ….
or maybe the US is just alot more productive/has a more robust economy, and we have more land which necessitates more highways. Our economy runs on diesel. No mass transit will transport goods.
Ask is a reasonable starting point. Cage & harnesses real perks if you intend to use similarly. What's your number, $18x?
Originally Posted by Randy M
I'm reading many posts of hoping that prices go down. For any of that to happen the gov't will have to stop printing money, inflation will have to go down, supply chain issues will have to be reversed and demand will have to go down. Rates are higher but imo most who look for a GT3 aren't exactly looking at their monthly payments and considering whether or not they can afford it.
The market may be softening a bit as many are losing their *** in the market but even if prices go down $20K on avg there will be no 'deals' on GT3's.
Subscribe more to this viewpoint than the counter. Still waiting to see some #'s assigned to the GT3 value doomsday scenario, i.e., what sort of deals are prospective owners projecting and waiting for
From an owner's perspective, if crash occurs, won't be selling GT3 or Google at the low.
Negotiations over the past week on RS, dealers aren't wobbling very much on .2 values yet. Their reference points are base 992 @ 250-400k, 992 RS at 400-500k. Strong argument that 991.2 base & RS are already deals to be further supported w/ 992 RS release.
GT car MSRP borderline meaningless at this point. Instead compare GT3 experience to anything else in price tier(s). If they're not already priced fairly, point to the better driving experience and superior long-term value prospect for equal (or less) $.
i've been tracking (no pun intended) that car for a couple weeks as it took them a while to get their hands on it. the cage/harness are a deterrant for me but i'd done some prelim negotiating with them and they came down to 188 but fyi they are one of those dealers that adds random crap on to the deal to make up their margin. clearshield and stargard add about $1200 back in
it also has a rev range 4 ignition in the dme so it cannot be certified unfortunately
Anyone know where the three 991.2's at Hoffman Honda went? Lava Orange, White, and PTS Ice Blue Metallic. That PTS IBM has been floating around for over year, sat at Mark Motors in Texas for long time. Looks like they simultaneously went to auction....*EDIT* Looks like they're back minus the PTS with a GSM added.
If you like Lava Orange, actually seems like a bargain at ~15k over sticker:
Anyone know where the three 991.2's at Hoffman Honda went? Lava Orange, White, and PTS Ice Blue Metallic. That PTS IBM has been floating around for over year, sat at Mark Motors in Texas for long time. Looks like they simultaneously went to auction....*EDIT* Looks like they're back minus the PTS with a GSM added.
If you like Lava Orange, actually seems like a bargain at ~15k over sticker:
what the hell is a honda dealer in CT doing with 3 GT3's haha
all pdk unfortunately for me
09-06-2022, 12:46 PM
