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Old 03-19-2024, 10:03 AM
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RoW (Swiss-market) ‘92 3.3. White/black with the cloth “Porsche” script interior, sport seats, LSD, and shows 44k km (27k miles). No price listed.

https://flatsixporsche.com/collectio...7-000-miles#11

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Old 03-19-2024, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
RoW (Swiss-market) ‘92 3.3. White/black with the cloth “Porsche” script interior, sport seats, LSD, and shows 44k km (27k miles). No price listed.

https://flatsixporsche.com/collectio...7-000-miles#11
I love the Porsche cloth. I had set of Koenig sport seats with Porsche cloth. Best 911 seat IMO I don't think they have been made in decades though.

Looks very clean but there appears to be black overspray by the vin tag. I wonder what that is all about?
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Cobalt, That's fiber particles. beautiful 965.
Old 03-21-2024, 10:13 AM
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A few very intriguing Turbo’s.

Amethyst 3.3 which is claimed to be a pre-production car (first ever 3.3 produced):
https://www.early911s.de/en/cars/sal...otyp-genf-1990

Gulf Orange X33:
https://www.early911s.de/en/cars/sal...65-3-3-turbo-s

Wimbledon Green 3.6 with matching interior and also claimed to be pre-production:
https://www.early911s.de/en/cars/sal...65-3-6-turbo-1

More photos of the 3.6 on this other listing:
https://www.elferspot.com/en/car/por...-1992-3456322/

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Old 03-21-2024, 10:37 AM
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^ Interesting collection of turbos.

I am assuming they have supportive documentation this is the prototype. The picture is from the 90 Geneva auto show. As you can see the car posted has been modified to look like a TSL but isn't. So the original condition is erroneous. Lots of info I have to question regarding this car. Nice looking no doubt.

The second orange car is nice no doubt but again has a 94 TS wing which wasn't released till much later they also removed the rear wiper. It is also wearing the side scoops without any option code so it is a heavily modified example but pretty.

Third car is also very nice combo but wheels were done later. The option for painted wheels is not present. Looks to be a full respray possibly more the welds in the rear engine bay are too smooth to be factory.

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This same dealer also has a Mint Green X33.

https://www.early911s.de/en/cars/sal...4-33-turbo-wls
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this seller has always great cars. unbelievable. same to his prices. he asks usually double of the market prices.
so if a good 3.3 sells for 150 over here he asks 330 as an example.

depends on your wallet ….
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Black/gray ‘91 3.3 on BaT. Posted this car back in November and they were asking $250k. Thought it had a lot of grime on the underside and maybe lived a tough life or more mileage than stated. The front lip should probably be replaced as underneath it looks to have been scraped a few times.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-911-turbo-69/

Originally Posted by peterpullin
this seller has always great cars. unbelievable. same to his prices. he asks usually double of the market prices.
so if a good 3.3 sells for 150 over here he asks 330 as an example.

depends on your wallet ….
They do get in some very unique cars there, but do ask the moon for them.
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The red 3.6 on BaT didn’t move and sold at $400k as it had been sitting at for several days. Thought it would’ve gone a little bit higher. Seller noted the rear deck lid had been repainted.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-turbo-3-6-14/
Old 03-22-2024, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
This same dealer also has a Mint Green X33.

https://www.early911s.de/en/cars/sal...4-33-turbo-wls

There all nice looking cars however they are all restored and no actual documented miles. They are showing miles or km's since being refurbished. Could have any number of miles before being reconditioned. Clearly the asking is high due to the cost to recondition but you would need to look it over carefully. These cars scare me sometimes they are great and sometimes not. No mention of mechanicals and what was done and how many miles on the drivetrain.

It appears they mixed the gulf orange specs with the mint green.

Most people I speak with these days won't buy from BaT. Could have some impact. Also red is a great color but very common and not for everyone.

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Originally Posted by cobalt
There all nice looking cars however they are all restored and no actual documented miles. They are showing miles or km's since being refurbished. Could have any number of miles before being reconditioned. Clearly the asking is high due to the cost to recondition but you would need to look it over carefully. These cars scare me sometimes they are great and sometimes not. No mention of mechanicals and what was done and how many miles on the drivetrain.

It appears they mixed the gulf orange specs with the mint green.

Most people I speak with these days won't buy from BaT. Could have some impact. Also red is a great color but very common and not for everyone.
I have noticed also almost all of their cars looked to have been restored. Think I saw they offered some cars to be individually customized with any paint color you want. Saw a 993 Turbo in black and offered a service to have it painted a different color.

I personally would not want to buy an older car off BaT. Can be difficult to get an idea of what you are buying off there and that’s a problem when buying an older car like a 964 as a lot of them are rough or have been. They have been shined up for sale as the market has gone up and some sellers are less honest than others. Would rather buy privately from a seller I trust and GP Motors who did the sale on that red 3.6 is not one of them.
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
I have noticed also almost all of their cars looked to have been restored. Think I saw they offered some cars to be individually customized with any paint color you want. Saw a 993 Turbo in black and offered a service to have it painted a different color.

I personally would not want to buy an older car off BaT. Can be difficult to get an idea of what you are buying off there and that’s a problem when buying an older car like a 964 as a lot of them are rough or have been. They have been shined up for sale as the market has gone up and some sellers are less honest than others. Would rather buy privately from a seller I trust and GP Motors who did the sale on that red 3.6 is not one of them.
There are a few honest sellers but far more i wouldn't trust. The platform itself has gotten out of control. So many looking to cash in and yes the lipstick can be rather thick on some of the pigs. It is easy to point out the pigs but BaT won't abide by that.

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Very interesting 964 Turbo Cup and S Lightweight from this same seller.
Old 03-25-2024, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Very interesting 964 Turbo Cup and S Lightweight from this same seller.
Interesting how these special cars don't show up in any of the documentation we have been compiling all these years along with any of the published books. The Vin's aren't shown and the one is missing key letters and the vins are short characters.

Is what we are seeing part of why Porsche refuses to release info from the 90's? These cars were sold but weren't supposed to be? I highly doubt they used Recaro labeled seats like that. Although it would be interesting to see whatever documentation they have to prove they are what they claim?
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That company seems to be a very interesting operation…..to say the least……


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