Tarek307

ummm dealers don't "Jump titles" and don't need to get a title in their name and register a car, there is a part that says dealer reassigment on the back of the title the dealer just writes their name in. Your situation was probably something different, maybe previous owner didn't sign correct spot, or pre dated it or wrote wrong date when they signed it. it happens..the only thing the dealer did wrong was not tell you that its going to take a while to correct the issue.

cobalt

94 turbo S package car without option codes X93 rear spoiler and XE2 Quad tail pipes. I was approached a few years ago about selling my OE TurboS X93 tail in it's original gel coat by the owner of a Turbo S wearing a factory tail vs the X93 tail. I don't know if this was the car. The owner was trying to determine if the car was delivered with the factory tail or not. If you look at the pictures on Marks site http://www.flachbau.com/package/480408-2/ the car has neither the X93 tail or XE2 pipes although it is also missing the vin sticker in the center of the bumper which makes me assume that the car may have been hit in the back end. If so it is possible they could not source a replacement tail or pipes from the factory therefore using Stock turbo parts. I do know Mark had informed me when I was purchasing the tail that he had to replace his and it took over a year and $6k to buy back in 1996. IIRC 6 were made. One went to Mark, I have one and the remaining are MIA. These are NLA although RUF used the same tail on some models. There is no part number for these and have no markings other than the OE stamp in resin on the inside. The TurboS tail also needed a special shroud that was different than the one used with the stock tail.

I would do my due diligence before spending 7 figures for this car. It might be original but only proper documentation would say for sure I would check for any prior paintwork. Also I don't believe that the lower valances were painted on the turbo S cars and the front splitters and under trays appear to be painted.

bweSteve

I feel for ya TJ. Happened to me too. In my case the owner passed away (over a year prior to me buying the car), the son inherited the car, which had a lien on it (so the Title resided with the Bank), and the son never transferred the title from his deceased father to himself,... then traded the car into a Porsche dealership. Couple that with me buying it from half way across the country (ie different state with laws different than mine),.... and yes you can see how there are many different scenario's that can snag you up.

=Steve

Trader220

Dealer's dont "Jump Title" and they don't have to pay sales tax. There are plenty of third party services who, for a fee will do the dealer paperwork for title work in other states. Whatever the issue was with your situation it wasn't a case of jumping title by the dealer. It may not have even been your dealer's fault, except for the fact they didn't look into the title situation before they bought and then sold the car.

Trader220

Cobalt, I am always impressed with your knowledge of these cars, thanks for the info. Interesting comments about the spoiler, I didn't notice at first but after reading your comments all of a sudden the car looks really wrong with the current unit.

Please don't confuse me with a legit buyer for this car. Although I enjoy buying / selling / driving and working on these cars and typically have a few in my stable its not likely I'll be paying a million dollars for any one car anytime soon.

clubrcr

Cobalt, i am assuming this what you're talking about, dual pipes, rear wing, etc.

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/p...911-turbo-s-36

rsabeebe

package cars are the rarest of the rare 964s. only 17. crazy.

cobalt

Yes all the 94 turbo S's looked like this and was part of the X85 US or X84 ROW and package cars but not the X83 Japanese turbo S's. In many ways this could almost be considered a stock turbo with X88 power with X99 side vent options but it is noted as one of the 15 US package cars the other two went to Canada.

Trader220

Interesting car if you want to do business with these guys:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ornia-car.html

I have my doubts about the mileage since it only moved 50 miles in the last 3 years but was state inspected twice and made it all the way across the country.

tjb616

Convince them to get the car to Champion for a PPI if you really want it. My biggest regret in working with them is that Eddie wouldn't go that far and I settled on a PPI shop, which is going to cost me hopefully not more than 10k. I should've taken it as a sign when he refused to work with them because of "the distance." If he agrees immediately, maybe it's a good sign the car is clean.

On another note, as a Linen carpet owner.... what the hell was Porsche thinking? That one is almost as gross as mine!

Og_m3

i had a family member check this car out and it was for sale in northern California about a month ago. it has had a respray; some panels >19mils thick. had to pass on it along with other issues; wont even go into what it was selling for

edit: found a ppi report that the seller sent me a when i inquired about it

synth19

I've had dealers have issues with taking a car to my preferred shop for a PPI due to distance. However, I have offered flatbed to/back and they have agreed all the time.

Bloose993TT

If your going to ask all the money at least detail the engine bay / spoiler area.


This hood sticker scares me right off the bat also.

Trader220

19 mils is not a respray thats a top of body filler.

Tarek307

I wouldn't let any of my cars get flat bedded anywhere, ppi limits for me are 10-15 miles surrounding area as there are many shops or the buyer can go find another car.


Not always the case, body filler is usually high 20's 30's or no reading at all! . I've had a car resprayed and the thickness of paint was 19 in some places - it all depends how good of a respray and how detailed the shop is.