cobalt

Not sure why multiple posts

cobalt

Same!!

jeff33702

1991 Porsche 911 | eBay

Seller: "Too many more details to list."

For $300k, I think you need to list them all.

cobalt

All show no go for $300k.

dmaddox

I've really been wondering lately, if tastefully modding my 93 C2 devalues or increases the value. This 300k "all show" eBay car looks cool, but you could never make it factory again - and THAT to me, kills the value. Everything I have done, is reversible. I also have all of the parts aside from oem exhaust and struts/shocks. I've inspected (and had a 3rd party) inspect my paint, and I have had rear passenger work done, but no history or information as to why. "OPTIONS" for a new owner, that is what I think I would like. You want track? You are mostly there. You want OEM? Here are the oem parts. You want a well dialed in and maintained street machine? Done. Nothing is cut or gutted, or destroyed. Further, I have used all genuine Porsche parts or better/equivalent.

I guess what I'm saying is enjoy it, but don't ruin it (my personal opinion), leaving any potential new owner with the options, documentation, information and history as best as you can. I'd love to think my car is a 150K car. But that's mostly because I have invested so much research, labor, parts, time, frustration, f-bombs, spanners sunk into the drywall in anger, wrong parts, blood, an angry wife, pissed off neighbors, a hungry dog, empty fridge and more stupid questions in forums updates than I care to admit.

jeff33702

Lol - car life.

I'm in the same boat. The universal rule is - no matter what - the more you modify something to your own liking, the more you narrow down the pool of potential buyers. I'd rather have a small pool of billionaires liking my car than a small pool of high school kids, though.

My thinking is - keep it motorsport, keep it reversable, retain the original essense of the car... the way things have gone, this seems to keep 964s very desirable and loses the least amount of investment in any modifications you apply. If an OEM+ solution achieves 90% of what you could do with an aftermarket solution, I like the OEM+ route. Subejctive, of course.

RapidGT

People lately have been paying up for hot rods (“outlaws”) and resto mods if they are done well. Have been commanding a premium over stock examples that have an older restoration showing signs of wear and use. A few years ago this wasn’t the case as modified cars generally would go for not much more, the same, or less. The premiums for these modified cars has been most apparent in the F-body 911’s and 356’s.

s65e90

Too many people seem to think about the next owner, who cares?

dmaddox

I do, as the next owner. Appeals to more potential buyers, as the seller.

Spyerx

This is surprising to me, as fully stock/original cars tend to do best longer term. I don't have a single stock car... don't care too much about the next guy and just assume I'll lose my *** if I sell.

s65e90

Exponentially it seems just even recently. RWB cars are on Ebay for $300k, I'm sure they're not selling for that, but still...

928 GT R

220? No, they all had the more complex 959/PSD system... I stand corrected and will confirm the build sheet after getting the car back in mid April. I knew it was LTD SLP but typed before thinking it through.

cobalt

What I did to my C2 10 years ago would have been unthinkable. It wasn't all that long ago if it wasn't stock it wouldn't sell or if it did was at a huge loss.

My Slick top project was a huge undertaking and swapping out the cashmere to simple black interior, MCS, Exhaust, Rothsport shifter, Big brakes etc,etc, etc I find the car gets more attention than ever. It is a fully sorted needs nothing 63k mile 93 C2. I would think it would be worth less because of lack or originality, if I were to sell but I get more interest in it than I could imagine.

I was asked how much by someone and jokingly through out a price of $225k. I got a strange look and he countered with $190k. I suspect as crazy as it sounds I could get $200k. Based on what I am seeing and hearing most everyone wants an outlaw these days more than a stock C2. They just want a clean car to start with or one fully done to their liking.

I am seeing an entire new culture buying these as a status symbol to show off at the C&C's with. This 993TT I have been working on is more about the RS steering wheel PCCM radio and KW suspension than being mechanically sound. The right parts seem to be a must and many want the big brakes and fancy interiors. The problem with interiors is they can be polarizing and what one likes another might not. Going basic black seems to have been a good choice as everyone likes it with the Amazon. That is also a huge change. When I purchased my amazon cars the color wasn't special today it gets tons of attention.

Duke48

Is it possible to move off-topic posts(including this one of course) and return to the original form of this thread please?

dmaddox

You mean talking about prices and values in the "964 prices" forum?