RSAErick

Ruairidh,
I didn't intend to single you out, as these statements pertaining to RS America's have been made by many. I appreciate your well spoken clarification.

Jim,
You are probably right. It's probably something that I would never have noticed had I not owned an RS America.

Erick

Bill Gregory

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"><strong> Perhaps any remaining difference is primarily due to the absence of power steering on the RSA; a difference that led someone to inquire about switching from power to manual steering.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">An interesting aside: While the 964RS has both manual and power steering, depending on left hand or right hand drive, and we know the RSA has manual steering, the 993RS uses the 964 power steering system. I know you wanted to know that

Switching from power to manual steering isn't too difficult. Search the archives where previously I've posted the parts needed.

Flagg

Hey,

I am new here.....I have had my RS America since new for over 10 years now.....I thought I knew all about my car - but there are nothing but questions I have after reading all these posts...........

Great discussion everyone........Flagg

ps - One thing I will say - I am so in love with my RSA that if something tragic did happen to it - I would be looking for ANOTHER RSA.......

Jim Michaels

Welcome, Flagg. You're in the right place, but where the heck have you been all this time? You have some catching up to do. If you don't already know about it, there's a Search feature you can click on at the top right hand side of each page. Click on it and type in RS America, then click on the search rectangle at the bottom center. A bunch of thread titles will show and you can select any you like the sound of to read. Also, if you haven't already, you should go to Keith's RSA registry site (www.RSAmerica.net), look around, and get on board. Keith's RSA forum section isn't yet open, but we'll be happy to try to answer any remaining questions you have here.

Flagg

JIM,

Thanks for the Welcome! I will do some 'searches' as you suggest, and try to catch up.

I am kind of new to all this Chat page stuff. But ready to start! My Daily driver right now is a 2003 Mini Cooper. I discovered the <a href="http://www.roadfly.com" target="_blank">www.roadfly.com</a> chat page for the Cooper and have been pretty active on that for a while. From there I found chat pages for BMWs which I have owned - and the 911 chat page that Roadfly has. A member on that list pointed me in the rennlist direction.

It seems that <a href="http://www.roadfly.com" target="_blank">www.roadfly.com</a> caters more toward BMW folks - THIS seams to be an awesome, active, chat page for PORSCHES!

I know all about Keith's RSA regustry site. I have been in Keith's registry a long time. I even have several articles that Keith has posted. Nothing as detailed as some of these, but minor modifications I have done to the car, or things I have done with the car. I love what Keith is doing for the RSA. I can not wait til his chat page is up and running!

So I know ALOT about the RSA - but in reading this thread - I have realized that there is ALOT I do not know. I am excited to learn and to contribute when I can..........

Glad to be aboard this page - thanks again for the welcome...........Flagg

Adrian

Dear Flagg,
This is the forum where the 964 is stripped to tbe bones and rebuilt. If we do not know it we go and find it out. All 964s owners should come here because it is the place to be. I only have one pet dislike and that is myths and legends be they good or bad.
In my posts I do use th eowrd cheaper but it is not meant as some may take as a put down. The RSA was cheaper for a reason. I hav enever costed the M84/03 engine improvements costs versus what they did not install into the Carrera RS but in my opinion it should have been cheaper as well.
The RSA is not a RS it is a RSA, a genuine named limited edition version of its own. That is how I treat it and will continue to do so. I have driven a RSA by the way and I have seen up close an dpersonal probably more of the intenrals of a RSA than most owners. On my first visit to Bentley publishers a very kind RSA owner Michael Wildt brought his RSA into the publishers, it went up on the lifter and we got a looking, checking seeing and photographing. Next time a RSA owner get sunderneath have a look at some of the suspnesion components. You will find that are actually C4 parts with the extra holes plugged. You will find this across many of the 964 series. Original C4 parts used. Remembering that the C4 came first.
Ciao,
Adrian
911C4

Jim Michaels

Flagg: The big, wide web world is also a small world in that you'll find so many with similar backgrounds and interests. I owned a '64 Mini Cooper S, and have owned BMWs as well, from the 2002 to my current M3). I've been to other Porsche forums, but found a home at rennlist. There is no substitute, as some might say.

Flagg

Adrian - thanks for your expertise....I feel like I will be able to ask you anything that comes up!

Jim - Awesome that you have owned a 64 Mini Cooper S, 2002, and now an M3. I had a 1995 M3 for 4.5 years. Another cool car that I owned for 7 years as a daily driver was a 1995 Land Rover Defender 90 - a different kind of fun....

Nothing has given me the feeling that I get every time I drive my RS America........Flagg

Adrian

Dear Flagg,
Wait until you get behind the wheel of a RUF RCT Evo. This is the latest offering from RUF based on the 964.
Ciao,
Adrian
911C4

PogueMoHone

What a great thread!

I owned a 93 RSA and sold it in pristine condition in 97 with 7000 miles. A major heart attack made me think I would have no further need for it. What a mistake.

I loved that car, and in fact when comparing the then new 993 I felt the new 993 was too soft. It's interesting to read now that the 993 is considered the "king of the hill".

Well, ten years later it has taken a GT2 to get back the feel of what (I believe) existed in the RSA, in terms of turn in etc.

I'm sure the RSA was a lightened version of the C2, that perfectly demonstrated the advantage/disadvantage of weight.

If seem welding were to have occured, would it not have resulted in re-federalizing the car? That is something Porsche didn't do.

David K.

WORKS FOR ME!.........
<img src="http://www.rsamerica.net/images/gallery_pics/DavidKofNJ_6-02rear.jpg" alt=" - " />
<a href="http://www.rsamerica.net/gallery/davidk_of_nj.htm" target="_blank">More Of My RS America</a>

ltc

I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but it would appear that ever since this thread started, there has been an increase in the # of RSA's for sale over on KeithV's website (my other internet rest stop besides rennlsit)!

Not sure if this is good or bad, but the asking prices are NOT going down

Adrian

Dear Lewis,
Just a coincidence andmore related to the condition of the economy rather than this thread. I really do not believe people are that sensitive.
Ciao,
Adrian
911C4

Jim Michaels

Asking prices are easy to see, but selling prices are more elusive. Maybe the selling prices are going down now that the Cup tub and special engine stories have received a drubbing. Like Adrian, I seriously doubt that RSA owners are rushing to sell theirs because they don't have Cup tubs and special engines. It's Spring!

Cupcar

Interesting that I ignored this string as I have even been quoted in it!!!

I'm Bob Gagnon, the one who wrote the article "Lightweight Carrera CONFUSION" about these cars that appeared 10 years ago this month in the PCA magazine "Porsche Panorama" and is quoted elsewhere in this string.

There indeed is a lot of CONFUSION that still exists for sure!

Most Americans have never seen or heard of a European RS car or realized that there was a parallel universe in Europe that had an RS car very difffent from what the American market got. To give you an idea of the difference between the RSA and Euro RS one can count the number of pages in the factory service booklets comparing the cars to a normal C2; the book describing the RSA is 4 pages long, the one for the Euro RS is 22 pages long .....hence CONFUSION.

Both 964 cars, the for America and Canada only: "911 Carrera RS America" and the Europe and the rest of world only: "911 Carrera RS" are both called an "RS"..... hence CONFUSION.

I have a fax from Mr. Lang and Mr. Resch at Porsche dated 12 Feb. 1993 that clearly states: "...76 including 14 right hand drive Touring version Carrera 2 RS vehicles were built." So my information from the factory researching the article is 76 Touring cars were built. This is different from what Adrian has probably been given by a another factory source...hence CONFUSION.

The factory workshop manual for the 964 series has a multipage section showing the detail differences between the Touring and the Basic (or Lightweight) versions of the European car. Here the reference to the Touring version is called the "base" version and the lightweight is the "N/GT" version. So, the factory mixes up the terminology in their own literature calling the N/GT the "Basic" here and the Touring the "base" there in describing the cars...hence CONFUSION.

The production of the RSA was over 3 model years at the factory (the end of '92 production run and all of '93 and '94) yet the cars were model year '93 and '94 cars, so the engine numbers span 3 model years and the VIN numbers two model years. Details of production vary depending on whether they were built duing the model year '93 or '94 sequence. Nobody at the factory kept track of the total built.....hence CONFUSION.

Some RSA cars had rolled fender lips for tire clearance, all Euro RS cars did. This operation is described in the factory book "Porsche Information Technik Service Information '92 911 Carrera RS" but not in the shop manual list of modifications...hence CONFUSION.

What a mess, not very heartening for a guy who wrote an article to eliminate some of the CONFUSION!!!! <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />