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Old 12-03-2019, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by linderpat
The peanut gallery isn't enough for this one.
The BaT peanut gallery is seriously tiring and add nothing of value.
Old 12-03-2019, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by slownrusty
The BaT peanut gallery is seriously tiring and add nothing of value.
I believe just the opposite. So many out there wanting/believing that they have an "above average driver" and the car is a total basket case. Buyers would like to be more informed about purchases and BaT brings that. It's easy to ignore the less educated comments and pass them on by.
Old 12-03-2019, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by slownrusty
The BaT peanut gallery is seriously tiring and add nothing of value.
Originally Posted by SeanR
I believe just the opposite. So many out there wanting/believing that they have an "above average driver" and the car is a total basket case. Buyers would like to be more informed about purchases and BaT brings that. It's easy to ignore the less educated comments and pass them on by.
I agree completely with Sean. The peanut gallery is essential to these auctions. One gets so much information and many critical eyes on a car that usually, cannot be seen in person. Note, the cars that have a lot of pictures, and good seller involvement with open, honest appearing answers, do much better as well. Look at 928 auctions by HLee and DMHager for examples of how to do it right, and maximize what you get. I have bought one car from BaT, and bid on a number of others, and the peanut gallery was most helpful.
Old 12-03-2019, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by linderpat
I agree completely with Sean. The peanut gallery is essential to these auctions. One gets so much information and many critical eyes on a car that usually, cannot be seen in person. Note, the cars that have a lot of pictures, and good seller involvement with open, honest appearing answers, do much better as well. Look at 928 auctions by HLee and DMHager for examples of how to do it right, and maximize what you get. I have bought one car from BaT, and bid on a number of others, and the peanut gallery was most helpful.
just have to know what people to listen to and what nuts to ignore
Old 12-03-2019, 11:08 AM
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There's a difference when you actually have owned the car in question and can chime in constructively versus picking them apart, being borderline insulative and adding absolutely nothing positive. Many of these people inappropriately comment and have no idea the time, dedication and perseverance it takes to maintain them and the fact that most of these cars are 30+ years old, (years and years and scrounging together dollars and dollars). Many of the peanut gallery you have no idea how some of these remarks sting especially if you're an owner and just not a dealer flipping a car. If commenters have legit questions, then by all means ask, if you have something positive to say by all means comment, there is absolutely no need to be vindictive.
Old 12-03-2019, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by slownrusty
There's a difference when you actually have owned the car in question and can chime in constructively versus picking them apart, being borderline insulative and adding absolutely nothing positive. Many of these people inappropriately comment and have no idea the time, dedication and perseverance it takes to maintain them and the fact that most of these cars are 30+ years old, (years and years and scrounging together dollars and dollars). Many of the peanut gallery you have no idea how some of these remarks sting especially if you're an owner and just not a dealer flipping a car. If commenters have legit questions, then by all means ask, if you have something positive to say by all means comment, there is absolutely no need to be vindictive.
I don't disagree with a word there. But I say cut through the bull crap and follow the intelligent posts - they add immensely. It's sort of like here (or maybe more like Pelican), you get lots of advice that isn't quite right, but over time, you learn who to trust nd who not. I imagine GregB winces on a daily basis when he sees us weekend warriors commenting on things involving these cars. But the collective knowledge still advances the cause. It's the basis for success in a wiki-like environment.
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Old 12-03-2019, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SeanR
There is a ton of stuff that needs to be taken care of, so many of them simple things it really makes me wonder what the hell bigly has been neglected.

If the clear coat was peeling and that's the reason for a respray, then that wasn't original paint on the car. This is respray #2.
Rear hatch seal, geezus.......
Jump post cover.
Caps on both dash and pod, junk stuff.
Cowl cover missing.
Hood pull cap/cover missing.
Tint bubbling up.
Hood heat pad bad.
Odd wear on the left rear brakes.
Cover for computers missing.
Easy to see water intrusion inside.
Bet that coolant temp gauge reads a tad bit low
Clock not working, aftermarket alarm installed at one point.
Fuel lines look original

Love the color and the no rubbies though.
thanks Sean. You are always a wealth of knowledge and I follow you on fb too. I owned a 928 a few years back but still have limited knowledge. I was thinking about bidding on this one but still uncertain.
Old 12-03-2019, 06:43 PM
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I love how you post here, post there, are insulting in both places and try to claim the high ground knowing that those you are referring to are in both of these places. I could have tanked that auction in a single post days ago with everything I see wrong on that car, but I chose not to. I've had several people ask me on this media and on FB what my thoughts were on it and I gave it an honest assessment. A pretty paint job doesn't make it a good car and if you think that ones in fine shape I would really hate to see what you've done to your own. Are you saying you are the previous owner of that a'86.5? Is that the quality of work you do? This quoted posts makes it sound that is the case.

Looking closer at the pictures, that car is a total mess. Cam covers leaking all over the engine, cracked vacuum lines, mis-placed intake runners rubbers, water soaked inside everywhere, dyed seats (poorly), stereo installed like a 15 year old did it in his first car.....I could go on. This is a perfect example of a $5k car needing $15k worth of work to make it a $12k car.

Originally Posted by slownrusty
There's a difference when you actually have owned the car in question and can chime in constructively versus picking them apart, being borderline insulative and adding absolutely nothing positive. Many of these people inappropriately comment and have no idea the time, dedication and perseverance it takes to maintain them and the fact that most of these cars are 30+ years old, (years and years and scrounging together dollars and dollars). Many of the peanut gallery you have no idea how some of these remarks sting especially if you're an owner and just not a dealer flipping a car. If commenters have legit questions, then by all means ask, if you have something positive to say by all means comment, there is absolutely no need to be vindictive.
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Old 12-04-2019, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SeanR
I love how you post here, post there, are insulting in both places and try to claim the high ground knowing that those you are referring to are in both of these places. I could have tanked that auction in a single post days ago with everything I see wrong on that car, but I chose not to. I've had several people ask me on this media and on FB what my thoughts were on it and I gave it an honest assessment. A pretty paint job doesn't make it a good car and if you think that ones in fine shape I would really hate to see what you've done to your own. Are you saying you are the previous owner of that a'86.5? Is that the quality of work you do? This quoted posts makes it sound that is the case.

Looking closer at the pictures, that car is a total mess. Cam covers leaking all over the engine, cracked vacuum lines, mis-placed intake runners rubbers, water soaked inside everywhere, dyed seats (poorly), stereo installed like a 15 year old did it in his first car.....I could go on. This is a perfect example of a $5k car needing $15k worth of work to make it a $12k car.
Relax pal and chill out, my comments were not directed at you at all...sheesh, furthermore I don't need you to vet the quality of my work.
Old 12-04-2019, 01:38 PM
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Whose GTS is this with no rubbies?
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:58 PM
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Whose GTS is this with no rubbies?
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=259566988
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That’s Chuck’s old car. Long gone.
Old 12-04-2019, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by slownrusty
The BaT peanut gallery is seriously tiring and add nothing of value.
They can work for you or against you. If you are not open to the comments don't list there. Stick to Autorader and the likes. I sold my 91 GT there and I think the comments helped. I answered all questions quickly and was truthful. If you are tryng to hide something sell elsewhere.
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Old 12-04-2019, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Anderson
They can work for you or against you. If you are not open to the comments don't list there. Stick to Autorader and the likes. I sold my 91 GT there and I think the comments helped. I answered all questions quickly and was truthful. If you are tryng to hide something sell elsewhere.
Remember the Canadian '90 GT a couple of weeks ago? This was an example of what not to do on BAT.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...sche-928-gt-7/
Old 12-04-2019, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by buccicone
Remember the Canadian '90 GT a couple of weeks ago? This was an example of what not to do on BAT.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...sche-928-gt-7/

I almost bid on that car... watched it go down to the very last minute.
But watching the dialogue, I held back. It’s an easy 24k car, but the seller wasn’t representing it that way. I think even if I bid 26k, it would not have met the sellers reserve. I think the seller was not being completely open about it. Funny thing is, if the seller had disclosed the bracket issue, I would have probably made a run at it. His notes did reflect new motor mounts, but what was the truth? I wasn’t going to risk any other hidden “gotcha” items.
Old 12-05-2019, 03:10 AM
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What do you all think of this one? https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...che-928-s4-34/
It looks very nice and the condition seems generally consistent with a low mileage car that has been kept out of the sun. But the small mileage changes over the last 15 years hardly seem to cover the round trip travel between DMV, home and the occasional trip to the German Car Shoppe for service. The engine, wiring, sensors and other bits look clean but has the intake been painted??

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