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Good job Randy for getting the fire out and not getting burned in the process!
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One final detail to end all the speculation about sealing the threads, not sealing the threads, Teflon tape, Teflon sealant, etc. ad nauseum -
We jumpered the fuel pump relay.
Raw gasoline streamed out of the weep hole located at the top of the gauge.
We jumpered the fuel pump relay.
Raw gasoline streamed out of the weep hole located at the top of the gauge.
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I assume you mean the fuel is coming out of the fill hole for the dampening fluid once the area behind the glass fills with fuel.
Well, that obviously means the internals of the gauge failed. I'm surprised because I would have thought it was much more robust than that.
Lesson learned.
Even though I have kept my thoughts to myself, I would like to take this moment to publicly apologize to you because I was fairly convinced it was human error. My bad.
I'm glad you are ok and also that you were able to save the car.
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Randy,
I really do not have an agenda . I just don't think people get the danger involved in using a hydraulic gauge for fuel . I know parts fail but when you start with the wrong part you increase the chance of bad things happening. I do not think anything here is malicious maybe a little irresponsible. I have said before if I am wrong about the gauge specs I will apologize .
Just for some background I do have some knowledge of hydraulics . I am in the sign business and have owned many crane and bucket trucks (hydraulic powered) and do most of my own wrenching on them. I have a 15 ton crane and 2 -bucket trucks in my fleet now . I also own 4 928's .
If I have come across as disrespectful it is not on purpose I have a little trouble expressing my thoughts from a keyboard . However I have been called a coward in this thread by Mr. Tyson and it did kind of set me off and Colin called me Booby but it could have been a typo and really didn't bother me if it was not a typo it's just not that original.
I WILL APOLOGIZE for everything I have said if I am wrong about the gauge . I cannot be anymore stand-up than that. Please let me apologize.
I have said m peace.
Bobby
I really do not have an agenda . I just don't think people get the danger involved in using a hydraulic gauge for fuel . I know parts fail but when you start with the wrong part you increase the chance of bad things happening. I do not think anything here is malicious maybe a little irresponsible. I have said before if I am wrong about the gauge specs I will apologize .
Just for some background I do have some knowledge of hydraulics . I am in the sign business and have owned many crane and bucket trucks (hydraulic powered) and do most of my own wrenching on them. I have a 15 ton crane and 2 -bucket trucks in my fleet now . I also own 4 928's .
If I have come across as disrespectful it is not on purpose I have a little trouble expressing my thoughts from a keyboard . However I have been called a coward in this thread by Mr. Tyson and it did kind of set me off and Colin called me Booby but it could have been a typo and really didn't bother me if it was not a typo it's just not that original.
I WILL APOLOGIZE for everything I have said if I am wrong about the gauge . I cannot be anymore stand-up than that. Please let me apologize.
I have said m peace.
Bobby
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I personally know Bobby, and I can pretty much promise you that he means what he says.
There is no beating around the bush with Bobby, he just comes out and says what is on his mind, and honestly, what more can you ask out of a man.
As far as him hiding, I doubt that is ever going to happen.
He is a very sharp guy when it comes to 928's.
For what it is worth, I consider Bobby a friend, as I do Randy and Roger.
We have found out where the point of failure was and we need to move on the helping Randy get his car repaired.
Randy, here is something you might want to bring up to your insurance guys, was the timing belt over heated during the fire?
Will that be covered if it is not replaced when the work is done to your car?
How deep are they going to go as far as taking care of the heat related damages?
I have nothing to add to this other than lets just all move on.
Greg
There is no beating around the bush with Bobby, he just comes out and says what is on his mind, and honestly, what more can you ask out of a man.
As far as him hiding, I doubt that is ever going to happen.
He is a very sharp guy when it comes to 928's.
For what it is worth, I consider Bobby a friend, as I do Randy and Roger.
We have found out where the point of failure was and we need to move on the helping Randy get his car repaired.
Randy, here is something you might want to bring up to your insurance guys, was the timing belt over heated during the fire?
Will that be covered if it is not replaced when the work is done to your car?
How deep are they going to go as far as taking care of the heat related damages?
I have nothing to add to this other than lets just all move on.
Greg
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Now we know it was the gauge internals that let go causing this horrifying fire that could have been worst.
Do we want to point blame?
Some may just to show elegance.
Should we point blame?
No!
Should we not just take this as a lesson learned and move on?
I say yes!
I make a motion we close this thread and let the healing and repairs commence!
Do we want to point blame?
Some may just to show elegance.
Should we point blame?
No!
Should we not just take this as a lesson learned and move on?
I say yes!
I make a motion we close this thread and let the healing and repairs commence!
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Randy,
Thank you for taking the time to prove it was the gauge that failed. I have removed the various different gauges we have sold from the market and/or offered replacement costs or ball and caps to complete the task. Your gauge was rated for fuel and sold by Grainger.
I have also announced this on all the World 928 forums.
I would like to offer all parts for your rebuild at my cost to help offset your pain (just ask and it will be done and I also understand if you prefer to buy elswehere).
I am totally gutted about this and feel terrible that it happened. I am rethinking the selling of any fuel related component that is not factory original as I could not personally stand an accident of this type happening again.
Yours respectfully,
Roger
Thank you for taking the time to prove it was the gauge that failed. I have removed the various different gauges we have sold from the market and/or offered replacement costs or ball and caps to complete the task. Your gauge was rated for fuel and sold by Grainger.
I have also announced this on all the World 928 forums.
I would like to offer all parts for your rebuild at my cost to help offset your pain (just ask and it will be done and I also understand if you prefer to buy elswehere).
I am totally gutted about this and feel terrible that it happened. I am rethinking the selling of any fuel related component that is not factory original as I could not personally stand an accident of this type happening again.
Yours respectfully,
Roger
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could the gauge failure, when jumpering the relay (leaking from weap hole ) be due to the heat of the fire ..... and the fire was due to another leak? Or was the weep hole leak the cause of the fire? Just wondering
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Luckly there wasn't that much heat under that hood. The internals of the gauge were well protected from it. The leak had to be from the gauge.