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Sorry to hear about your fire, Randy. I will be removing my Fuel Pressure gauge and capping the stub.
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Steve,
I have the hose in hand with the tap turned on [i.e. pressurised] and either let the hose dump water on the floor or kink my end of it to arrest flow knowing that I can have it flowing water onto the site of any fire in a fraction of a second.
If you have to use it on an engine bay fire you may well end up with water in all sorts of places you do not want it but invariably much easier to deal with than what poor Randy is having to sort out and that looks mild compared to what most engine bay fires saeem to do.
One of these days I'll purchase a hand valve/regulator thingy to stick on the hose pipe- I think I have trashed two plastic things already after blindly running over them!![thumbsup](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigok.gif)
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I have the hose in hand with the tap turned on [i.e. pressurised] and either let the hose dump water on the floor or kink my end of it to arrest flow knowing that I can have it flowing water onto the site of any fire in a fraction of a second.
If you have to use it on an engine bay fire you may well end up with water in all sorts of places you do not want it but invariably much easier to deal with than what poor Randy is having to sort out and that looks mild compared to what most engine bay fires saeem to do.
One of these days I'll purchase a hand valve/regulator thingy to stick on the hose pipe- I think I have trashed two plastic things already after blindly running over them!
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Bottom line is that fuel came out of the weep hole at the top of the gauge, indicating a pass-thru failure of some type.
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I've been away and just saw this. Sorry for what happened Randy but looks like your quick actions saved the day. I immediately checked mine and it looks like I have the same type of gauge with the weep hole at the same location. I am definitely removing mine and reinstalling the ball and cap as an immediate corrective action.
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Hi Randy,
Just got through reading up on this thread, I am so sorry this happened to your GTS. I am VERY Happy that you are OK and it appears you did a great of minimizing the damage!!
If there is anything I can do to help please don't hesitate to let me know.
All the best,
Dave
Guys, PLEASE PLEASE do not order these type gauges for this application from McMaster's online catalog choices. IIRC I have never found any fuel pressure rated gauge in McMaster's online system. I assume Roger has arranged some sort of special deal with McMaster and the manufacturer because the 2 similar gauges listed on McMaster.com are NOT specified as Fuel Pressure Gauges and IMHO are NOT rated for the temps seen in the engine compartment.
The gauge part number you spec'd above is stated to be used for compressed air, hydraulic oil and water ONLY...and even worse the max ambient temp rating is only 158F degrees!
The only other gauge similar to this is mcmaster part # 3850K34 and it is also for compressed air, hydraulic oil and water only..and is only rated for 140F degrees ambient temps.
As I said don't just go to a website and order something you think is similar to what is being used, at least without checking and understanding the specs.
Below are the links to the specs for the 2 part numbers mentioned, note the "For use with" specs and the "Temperature Range" ratings..PLEASE don't order these to be used as a fuel pressure gauge, especially in the heat of the engine compartment.
McMaster Part# 3850K34
http://www.mcmaster.com/#3850k34/=evhjtm
McMaster Part# 9780T114
http://www.mcmaster.com/#9780t114/=evhnxj
Where ever you get gauges for this application make sure the gauge is at least made and specified as an automotive fuel pressure gauge by the manufacturer.
Randy, my apologies for the "hijack", I didn't want to take the chance that someone here would unknowingly order an industrial General usage Pressure Gauge and use it as a FP gauge in the engine compartment.
Please Be safe!!!!!
Just got through reading up on this thread, I am so sorry this happened to your GTS. I am VERY Happy that you are OK and it appears you did a great of minimizing the damage!!
If there is anything I can do to help please don't hesitate to let me know.
All the best,
Dave
The gauge part number you spec'd above is stated to be used for compressed air, hydraulic oil and water ONLY...and even worse the max ambient temp rating is only 158F degrees!
The only other gauge similar to this is mcmaster part # 3850K34 and it is also for compressed air, hydraulic oil and water only..and is only rated for 140F degrees ambient temps.
As I said don't just go to a website and order something you think is similar to what is being used, at least without checking and understanding the specs.
Below are the links to the specs for the 2 part numbers mentioned, note the "For use with" specs and the "Temperature Range" ratings..PLEASE don't order these to be used as a fuel pressure gauge, especially in the heat of the engine compartment.
McMaster Part# 3850K34
http://www.mcmaster.com/#3850k34/=evhjtm
McMaster Part# 9780T114
http://www.mcmaster.com/#9780t114/=evhnxj
Where ever you get gauges for this application make sure the gauge is at least made and specified as an automotive fuel pressure gauge by the manufacturer.
Randy, my apologies for the "hijack", I didn't want to take the chance that someone here would unknowingly order an industrial General usage Pressure Gauge and use it as a FP gauge in the engine compartment.
Please Be safe!!!!!
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When I first supercharged my car, I was smelling gas when I parked my car in the garage. On closer inspection, I found my gauge was leaking a fine mist of fuel around the threads where the gauge threads into the adapter. That mist was spraying onto my distributor cap and evaporating almost instantly. Needless to say I was very lucky I had new wires installed and nothing happened. I snugged up the gauge and it hasn't leaked since, however I think I might just remove it and only install it again if I need it for tuning. I bet I haven't looked at it for over a year now since I have had my car dialed in.
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I dont want to be a threadjacker, and I really am uncomfortable recommending any under-hood fuel components for obvious reasons... however, if there is a Rev2 kit being considered, you may find the below senders to be of interest:
http://www.umainstruments.com/tso_senders.htm
They are FAA rated, so should be safe for automotive use, even in extreme conditions. Not a personal endorsement, just an "observation" for anyone interested. Use at your own risk.
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http://www.umainstruments.com/tso_senders.htm
They are FAA rated, so should be safe for automotive use, even in extreme conditions. Not a personal endorsement, just an "observation" for anyone interested. Use at your own risk.
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Hans
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As the fuel gauge kit is meant for diagnostic purposes only none of this should be an issue. We do not recommend that the gauge we fitted to the car on a permanent basis.
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Surely you are aware that most folks install this gauge as a permanent installation.
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Randy,
You were told by a number of very knowledgeable people to not fit the gauge permanently to your car – common sense.
I am aware a lot of owners fit the gauge to the car for testing and leave it there, myself included. That is a decision for individuals to make.
We have already warned owners about the risks after your accident. We added a note to the instructions that the gauge is meant to be used as a diagnostic tool only.
We already offered a replacement gauge kit even though there is not conclusive proof it was indeed the gauge.
We are also happy to help with discounts on parts that you may need for the rebuild.
Roger
You were told by a number of very knowledgeable people to not fit the gauge permanently to your car – common sense.
I am aware a lot of owners fit the gauge to the car for testing and leave it there, myself included. That is a decision for individuals to make.
We have already warned owners about the risks after your accident. We added a note to the instructions that the gauge is meant to be used as a diagnostic tool only.
We already offered a replacement gauge kit even though there is not conclusive proof it was indeed the gauge.
We are also happy to help with discounts on parts that you may need for the rebuild.
Roger
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Randy,
You were told by a number of very knowledgeable people to not fit the gauge permanently to your car – common sense.
I am aware a lot of owners fit the gauge to the car for testing and leave it there, myself included. That is a decision for individuals to make.
We have already warned owners about the risks after your accident. We added a note to the instructions that the gauge is meant to be used as a diagnostic tool only.
You were told by a number of very knowledgeable people to not fit the gauge permanently to your car – common sense.
I am aware a lot of owners fit the gauge to the car for testing and leave it there, myself included. That is a decision for individuals to make.
We have already warned owners about the risks after your accident. We added a note to the instructions that the gauge is meant to be used as a diagnostic tool only.
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You can tell people anything you want, put whatever you want on the instructions. But getting them to listen is another story all together. If your ign leads were in good shape, this would not have happened. IMHO
An example is the amount of early cars still using alum ball joints, or cars still having the original fuel lines.
Parts do fail, nothing can prevent that regardless. We all know this from day to day life.
Yes it is not appreciated what happened, but I see no one at fault for this.
An example is the amount of early cars still using alum ball joints, or cars still having the original fuel lines.
Parts do fail, nothing can prevent that regardless. We all know this from day to day life.
Yes it is not appreciated what happened, but I see no one at fault for this.