Scat Stroker Crank FS, New (and a few pics of my 4 year project 78)
02-01-2010, 07:13 PM
#136
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The point is, you are making this out to be rocket science. Its not best practices or least practices, its SMART practices. Ever wonder why Ive had the "Luck" I have had racing 928s? Because I make sure the mains stuff is prepared well and is safe. Why would you want to put an engine in a car that has a transmission that is barely adapt to run with half your expected HP, especially if you "break things easily"?
What I was talking about was not about " you not catching something" but about the constant variable of some component that might not be up to the task, even if the bolts, heads, gaskets are. This stuff was designed 40 years ago and it is good, but new technology is much better and more efficient.
Good luck. Im sure it will work great, really. Not so sure about the entire system though.
Good luck. Im sure it will work great, really. Not so sure about the entire system though.
Due Diligence is getting the pins and the new bushings and the pin bore in the pistons resized/hones for proper fit. Crack Checking the crank. Drilling the crank. Getting the bores re-lappaed, and using 951 rings - after having the pistons coated on top and on the skirt. Planing the head and surfacing it properly. Balancing the rotating assembly - its in the details.
And once again, whether you are being this way as a joke or not, you and I are having a post back and forth about... DETAILS.
Will it all work? Will I win the lottery? I sure hope so - but with the engine I can do my DUE DILIGENCE to make sure everything I have control over is done correctly.
What is your point again?
02-01-2010, 07:15 PM
#137
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Off the Razz box.
How in the heck to you find the time to do all this. I was going back over the first few pages of this thread from 2 years ago and Im amazed of the things you have been doing. Will this car be streetable at all? how are you going to get it smogged if you are?
the things you are doing remind me of one of those show cars that are displayed with mirrors under the car to show-off the chrome nuts/bolts/plating.
carry on
mk
How in the heck to you find the time to do all this. I was going back over the first few pages of this thread from 2 years ago and Im amazed of the things you have been doing. Will this car be streetable at all? how are you going to get it smogged if you are?
the things you are doing remind me of one of those show cars that are displayed with mirrors under the car to show-off the chrome nuts/bolts/plating.
carry on
mk
It is meant as a very fast, but still comfortable daily driver and some DE time. Smogging will be interesting, I will say that. Possibly out of state, possibly some form of special plate. I have not done the research.
02-01-2010, 08:56 PM
#138
Captain Obvious
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No need to get your panties in a bunch, Mark has a very valid point. Unless you've built high hp cars before, doing them is stages (as opposed to all at once), to reduce the unknown variable is the way to go. Think about it.......If you are throwing too many aftermarket parts at it all at once and something doesn't perform as expected, it will be very difficult to figure out what the real problem is. Most people build their cars in stages. This way you know exactly what works with what other part before moving on. Build the engine, test it, then build the FI system, test it and so on.
02-01-2010, 09:25 PM
#139
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No need to get your panties in a bunch, Mark has a very valid point. Unless you've built high hp cars before, doing them is stages (as opposed to all at once), to reduce the unknown variable is the way to go. Think about it.......If you are throwing too many aftermarket parts at it all at once and something doesn't perform as expected, it will be very difficult to figure out what the real problem is. Most people build their cars in stages. This way you know exactly what works with what other part before moving on. Build the engine, test it, then build the FI system, test it and so on.
If it all doesn't work, so what. Its fun. Many pieces I am using are already well tested.
02-02-2010, 12:33 AM
#140
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Trust me, I respect the heck out of what you are doing. I can look (stare) at those powder coated suspension components for hours! Problem is, i have the attention span of a house fly and when the car isnt 1 day from running, i break out in hives.
Your right, there are a lot of well built cars out there that use the best of the best everything. It certainly cant hurt to build the heck out of it. my only point is the stock stuff is amazingly good in our cars, unlike most all others.
carry on.
mk
Your right, there are a lot of well built cars out there that use the best of the best everything. It certainly cant hurt to build the heck out of it. my only point is the stock stuff is amazingly good in our cars, unlike most all others.
carry on.
mk
Nah. Its my time (and others I rely on) and my money. I'm throwing everything in because its fun. Its a hobby. I am not running an F1 team worth 500 million where I have to test a wing's 1mm change. I am following my best practices process, and that's enough for me. Everything I am using is tested in some way or other, or simply is hardware that would work anywhere. I have enough pieces to put together another S4 engine, but with much higher compression. I think my theories will prove true and that you can run huge compression AND huge boost with E85 and proper tuning.
If it all doesn't work, so what. Its fun. Many pieces I am using are already well tested.
If it all doesn't work, so what. Its fun. Many pieces I am using are already well tested.
02-02-2010, 01:17 AM
#141
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Its Great stock. But its never been perfect for me. Or fast enough. Hopefully now it will be.
02-02-2010, 01:37 AM
#142
Nordschleife Master
Well, Its taking a long enough time that people like to rag on me about how long its taking. So I must not find enough time to do the work in a Rennlist time frame.
It is meant as a very fast, but still comfortable daily driver and some DE time. Smogging will be interesting, I will say that. Possibly out of state, possibly some form of special plate. I have not done the research.
It is meant as a very fast, but still comfortable daily driver and some DE time. Smogging will be interesting, I will say that. Possibly out of state, possibly some form of special plate. I have not done the research.
Honestly i had no idea this was so personal to you. When i joked about making it to the 50 year anniversary I was saying it to get you to smile. You and I have met a number of times, you just helped me out recently by sending me some gaskets for which you asked for nothing in return. Your a great member of the community and I hate to see you get so upset about this.
I cant speak for Kibort (I love giving him crap
HI MARK! 
) but I am pretty sure he didnt mean anything by it. I apologize if i hit a sensitive subject, thats was not my intention, i was only hoping to make you smile on your end of the computer.
Best
