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Old 03-05-2006, 09:59 PM
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Searched here and Nichols sight and couldn't find out how to remove the pin that holds the lockset in. Any ideas?
Old 03-05-2006, 10:30 PM
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Just drill a small hole adjacient the pin, deep enough that you can pry the pin out with a small diameter punch or other suitable instrument. It's not in very tight, but you need to give it a nudge.

This technique works on the other locks as well.

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I had to drill out the pin on my 79. I am in the process of rekeying all locks because the front area of the ignition lock spun freely in relation to the cylinder with the gates. I think someone may have used a screwdriver on it at some time in it's life. I will have to find a replacement ignition lock to rekey. I will take some photos and try to post them if I can.
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I drilled dead center of the pin to only 3mm deep. I used a drill bit the same size of the pin and it cuts off the top area which is flared. Then I used a maginet to remove it. I did this on all the other locks to take them apart also, it worked very well. You must be centered on the pin though!
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I just did this to an 83. There is a raised area of the column that surrounds the pin. I just ground a portion of that away then used needle nose pliers to grab the pin. Took all of 2 minutes.
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Thanks all!
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Did it on my 79 last year. You can drill down the center of the pin with a very small bit and ods are, the bit will grab the pin enabling you to pull it out. Really not that hard of a procedure if you've gotten that far. The hard part (time consuming part) is completing all the while your in there's so you don't have to go back in.
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Guys,

Could use some advice here.

I've got to recover from loosing the keys to this car.

Is this the pin we y'all talking about, way back when? (second picture)

Also, does anybody know if the numbers on the tape under the lock have any significance (ie, do they relate to the pin selection for the key?) All my cars have a number on the tape, so its factory.
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Fred I never drilled any out... I use a file on either side , file until I reach the pic....until I can grab the pin with a pliers. pulls right out.
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Thanks Mason. Its an old post I dredged-up, Freds is fixed I guess.

Its the piece shown in bumped up place in picture 2, on top of the cylinder, right?
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curious, if you lost the keys for the car why dont you just ordera replacement from porsche, i did today for a 928 i just bought cost me 70.00 made from the vin number
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Because I wasn't sure if this car has the original locks to match the VIN.
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yeah i, mot sure either but everybody seems to want an arm and a leg for locks and a key so ill try it, if not ill order a rekey kit and put them back, im interested in this too since my ignition was drilled out when i got the car.
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You have penty of answers here but i will put in 2 cents. I drill mine out and then tap it and put a screw in...Longer fix for sure. But makes it better for the next time and it then doesnt look all butchered for the next owner.
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Thanks Kyle. I'll do that threading thing.

My pin didn't lift out. Not without a fight. I ended-up drilling it out. Driving it downward, based on configuration, would have driven it into the lockset.

In retrospect, I actually do think this is an original lockset and am making an attempt at getting a Porsche-cut key.

There are other routes, none of them particularly easy. Have done much searching here! Many stories!
Some learnings so far from the searches.
1. Photograph your keys in case you need to use the Australian company to make a key by photo.
2. Scott Anderson is rumored to be the finest 928 keymaker in the country. ( but you need a key to get a key )
3. If no keys, its either the vin process, all new locks transplanted from a donor, or a new ignition set combined with rekeying to match it.
4. Porsche may or may not have a capable technician assigned to the making of the keys here in US. (something about relocation of the machine but not the techician a few years ago)

Also, some local locksmiths around the country that have invested in the "45 degree cutting attachement" for a key maker can sometimes duplicate keys. Again, need one to get one.

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