Westcoast

Congrats on the new Boxster and for dropping by here at Rennlist!

Did you read any part of the thread before jumping in?

Even the last few pages might have told you that the MIB/DIY version of the firmware upgrade was not designed for the 2024 version of PCM 4.0 Do not proceed with this method at this time!

OEM Navigation Retrofit DIY - Page 55 - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums

If you are an Apple user the PCM should have the CarPlay interface already active.

CarmineRed

Hi WestCoast!

Thanks for taking the time to respond. Yes, I did read through most of the posts, starting from the beginning of the thread, but I must admit that my head ended up spinning with all the information in there , and I missed the very clear statement from 718socal you refer to. My bad, sorry about that...

Unfortunately, I'm not an Apple user, I have an Android phone and was hoping to get Android Auto up and running, but it sounds like MIB will never be working for MY 2024. Ah well, too bad.

Thanks again for your help, and you have a good one!

Westcoast

No worries, I just don't want you to muck up your PCM! I too am an Android user, so read on!

OK, you still have two options, you can use something like this for wireless Android Auto based on CarPlay being active on the PCM:
Even though I have Android Auto and CarPlay enabled (wired of course), I use the above adapter for wireless connections on short trips. It will work on your 2024 PCM 4.0

The second option is to contact simaservis1108 via PM and see if he can enable these options, if he can it is a payable service, see this link: Porsche PCM4 - Carplay , Android Auto , Maps update , Video in motion , Voice control - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums

718socal

@Westcoast I wonder what the difference is between the Carlinkit 4 and 5. I think one requires a Wired CarPlay connection for Android Auto and the other a Wired Android connection. Both gets you Wireless AA

Westcoast

You are essentially correct!

The Carlinkit 4 works with wired CarPlay to give wireless CarPlay and Android Auto...Carlinkit 5 works with BOTH wired CarPlay and wired Android Auto to give you wireless connections to the respective phone.

When I bought my Carlinkit 4 unit, the more recent Carlinkit 5 was not yet out, the 4 is still just a bit cheaper, but we are only talking about $10 at the moment. One would think that the newer 5 is better but I don't have one to be able to comment on it.

CarmineRed

Thank you very much for the advice, WestCoast!

Carlink looks like a simple solution, but do you confirm that it will enable me to use Android Auto on my Boxster, even though I do not have wired Android Auto? (I do have wired Apple CarPlay)? From reading the product description, it seems that the wired version of Android Auto is required in order to be able to use wireless AA - but maybe I misunderstood.

Also, do you know what happens when you actually plug your Android phone (I usually do this to keep it charged on a long trip)? Does that break the wireless AA link?

I'll also PM simaservis1108 as per your recommendation, to see what he says.

Thanks again, and you have a good one!

718socal

Essentially what @Westcoast said is correct.
That would be the easiest way. You can ping @Carlinklife in here and ask those questions since they are a sponsor.

Westcoast

This is excellent advice, reach out and verify all of this with the vendor.

You said that you have wired CarPlay, so Carlinkit 4 will plug in via USB to the PCM and look to the system that you have an Apple phone plugged in, but in the background the adapter wirelessly connects your Android phone (Android 11 or higher), to have AA working on the PCM. As I mentioned, I have this set up working in my 718 Spyder, my Pixel 7 wirelessly connects to the Carlinkit 4 and it provides the connection and conversion to have AA up and running on the PCM. As for charging it with a USB during this operation, as your PCM is not enabled for AA it should not affect the wireless Carlinkit connection. I cannot verify this last part for you because I have both AA and CP enabled on my PCM.

Carlinkit 5 does not do the cross conversion from wired CP to wireless AA, basically they released a 2-channel unit, keeping AA and CP separate, only Carlinkit 4 will do this crossover, which is why I made that suggestion earlier.

CarmineRed

Thanks guys for your extremely valuable feedback.

This is it, I read the Carlink 5 description where they explain that the link is only Apple to CP or Android to AA, but no crossover. Now I checked the Carlink 4 description and I see that it is indeed able to cross over from Android to CP. I'll order myself one and see how it goes :-)

Thanks again!

josbmw

Same issue over here.
Ordered my GTS in december 2023 without navigation because I knew I could unlock it with MIB2.
Car already has a GPS reciever, just need to unlock the navigation.
That’s a bummer Porsche changed the headunits to another version.
Any progress on this? I’m willing to test.

Can’t I enable navigation with a Piwis 3 with engineering mode?

Westcoast

Is your a 2024 model, does the PCM have a CD/DVD drive?

If MY24 and no CD/DVD drive then MIB is not available for this version (yet).

And no, you cannot enable Navigation on the PCM using the PIWIS.

Your options for AA/CP and OEM NAV are outlined in post # 903 above.

OEM Navigation Retrofit DIY - Page 61 - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums

josbmw

No CD/DVD, so other unit.

Not interested in AA. I run a custom Android firmware without AA. Car has Carplay, so it already has a GPS antenna and the voice command button.

I put my Android phone in the left cupholder and use Waze.
The headunit navi is for quickly zooming out to have an overview of the region.
That’s how I run it in my 3.4 GTS with factory nav, perfect combination. I also work this way in my other cars, all with factory nav.

If there is no MIB2 solution, it will be a 1573 EUR tequipment upgraid I’m afraid….
And if I knew beforehand this would be a problem, I would just have ticked the nav box in the configurator.

The tequipment update doesn’t offer real time traffic info either like the factory navigation does (included 2 years for free).

Westcoast

FWIW, I always tell people to get factory OEM NAV, it is a lot more than just a map...

So, did you read the entire post I referenced? Option 2 should apply in your situation, both MIB and Sima can enable OEM NAV.

josbmw

Yes, but MIB is not an option currently since the new unit is not supported. MIB would be the ideal and cheapest solution.

Had contact with Sima by e-mail before ordering the car. Only got confirmation he can do it, but he didn’t give me any pricing.

Chelsea09

So I have a 2024 Boxster running MHI2_POG11_P5186 1476, HW version 56. My PCM has a CD/DVD. It appears to me that I can run the AIO from an SD card, activate NAV and then add maps. My PCM did not come with factory NAV or maps. Should I use the AIO and should I use K5186_1 or K5186? Thanks.