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Old 10-10-2022, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Fitzpatrick
Any suggestions on pricing for a 2022 Spyder in Gaurds Red, LWB, steel brakes, deviated stitching, manual with about 720 miles, purchased 6/30? $117k MSRP. Not serious yet, but playing garage tetris has proven to be way more annoying than I thought it would be.
Given 2023 cars do not get Bose or LED headlights, I think 2022 will be the car to have. I know my first 718 GT4 was a 112,xxx msrp and dealer sold within 2 weeks of me pre-trading (had about 10K miles too) CPO'd for 139K. I would think your car being 2 years newer would be worth around 145-155K.
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Originally Posted by Don Fitzpatrick
Any suggestions on pricing for a 2022 Spyder in Gaurds Red, LWB, steel brakes, deviated stitching, manual with about 720 miles, purchased 6/30? $117k MSRP. Not serious yet, but playing garage tetris has proven to be way more annoying than I thought it would be.
i'd say it's probably worth around a buck 29.
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Old 10-10-2022, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Thefullsend
Given 2023 cars do not get Bose or LED headlights, I think 2022 will be the car to have. I know my first 718 GT4 was a 112,xxx msrp and dealer sold within 2 weeks of me pre-trading (had about 10K miles too) CPO'd for 139K. I would think your car being 2 years newer would be worth around 145-155K.
I think that is a stretch but these days, who knows?!

I say put it in the Marketplace (https://rennlist.com/forums/market/vehicles) at "Best Offer" and see what you get!
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Old 10-11-2022, 02:43 PM
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Dayum, you don't drive it much either?
Even worse considering 370 miles was the trip home from PEC Atlanta. I work from home, have two young kids and my hobbies fall on the side of taking my truck (biking/race car/karting). I will clean it up and see, I didnt even think about the PDLS+ and bose shortage, but cant imagine it has a huge impact. Based on the two estimates here, pricing may wildly vary!
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Old 10-13-2022, 11:08 AM
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I realize I am very late to the party. Where do I even start to look for a gt4 allocation? Local dealers and work outwards? How much over MSRP should I expect if I can even find an allocation?
Old 10-13-2022, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by lcrain
I realize I am very late to the party. Where do I even start to look for a gt4 allocation? Local dealers and work outwards? How much over MSRP should I expect if I can even find an allocation?
Yes. Depending on your location, many local dealers will sell at MSRP.

Going out of state, most dealers are looking for ADM. It has come down lately but still varies wildly between $5k and $25k.
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Originally Posted by lcrain
I realize I am very late to the party. Where do I even start to look for a gt4 allocation? Local dealers and work outwards? How much over MSRP should I expect if I can even find an allocation?
There are two methods: 1) pick up the phone and start calling dealers. Start with your local dealers and work outward. Expect many out-of-state dealers to not want to do business with out-of-state clients. or 2) contact a broker and see what they can do for you. I opted for Option 1. There's something about eating what I kill that appeals to me.

Expect to pay ~$20K-$30K ADM for a GT4 allocation. There are dealers selling at MSRP; however, securing a vehicle is more important than the price point. It doesn't matter if they sell at MSRP if they can't get you a car. I have found that in the current environment, the dealers selling at MSRP have long waiting lists (20+ people). The likelihood of you getting a car before the end of production is very low if you're number 23 on the list. Good luck with your search.
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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
There are two methods: 1) pick up the phone and start calling dealers. Start with your local dealers and work outward. Expect many out-of-state dealers to not want to do business with out-of-state clients. or 2) contact a broker and see what they can do for you. I opted for Option 1. There's something about eating what I kill that appeals to me.

Expect to pay ~$20K-$30K ADM for a GT4 allocation. There are dealers selling at MSRP; however, securing a vehicle is more important than the price point. It doesn't matter if they sell at MSRP if they can't get you a car. I have found that in the current environment, the dealers selling at MSRP have long waiting lists (20+ people). The likelihood of you getting a car before the end of production is very low if you're number 23 on the list. Good luck with your search.
Fantastic advice. I did exactly the same. In the end, surprisingly, it was the dealer that I had bought my 99 Boxster from WAY BACK IN THE DAY that gave me my Spyder allocation. But, I just hit them at exactly the right time exactly the day that they got an allocation. I call it "making your luck".
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Originally Posted by lcrain
I realize I am very late to the party. Where do I even start to look for a gt4 allocation? Local dealers and work outwards? How much over MSRP should I expect if I can even find an allocation?
I dialed around locally, within 100 miles and found an allocation quickly at a fair price ($10k premium), but I had a 992 to trade in. That may have helped.
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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent
There are two methods: 1) pick up the phone and start calling dealers. Start with your local dealers and work outward. Expect many out-of-state dealers to not want to do business with out-of-state clients. or 2) contact a broker and see what they can do for you. I opted for Option 1. There's something about eating what I kill that appeals to me.

Expect to pay ~$20K-$30K ADM for a GT4 allocation. There are dealers selling at MSRP; however, securing a vehicle is more important than the price point. It doesn't matter if they sell at MSRP if they can't get you a car. I have found that in the current environment, the dealers selling at MSRP have long waiting lists (20+ people). The likelihood of you getting a car before the end of production is very low if you're number 23 on the list. Good luck with your search.
This is 100% spot on, basically have these options:

1. Get a "real" allocation, will be around 20k ADM over MSRP since that's what brokers are still quoting to people. You may get the car in 6-12months depending on supply chain and all those issues.
2. Buy a used car for call it around 10-15k over MSRP. You get the car now.
3. Get added to an MSRP list and either see no car or maybe get an allocation a year from now?

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I dialed around locally, within 100 miles and found an allocation quickly at a fair price ($10k premium), but I had a 992 to trade in. That may have helped.
Yeah the trade in helps because they are probably going to make around 20k off that and trade in value is below what you could sell private party.
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Old 10-13-2022, 01:07 PM
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Thanks for the advice, everyone. I will hit the phones. Ordering new and getting exactly what I want is appealing. That said, I am not that picky when it comes to colors or spec so if I am forced into paying a ADM of $10k or more I don't know if that is worth it to me. In that scenario, I might prefer keeping my eyes peeled for a used gt4 at/close to msrp and enjoying it today.

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Originally Posted by lcrain
Thanks for the advice, everyone. I will hit the phones. Ordering new and getting exactly what I want is appealing. That said, I am not that picky when it comes to colors or spec so if I am forced into paying a ADM of $10k or more I don't know if that is worth it to me. In that scenario, I might prefer keeping my eyes peeled for a used gt4 at/close to msrp and enjoying it today.
You might already know BaT, but this site typically has newer and lower millage cars available - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...718-boxster-5/
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Originally Posted by Ken in San Diego
You might already know BaT, but this site typically has newer and lower millage cars available - https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...718-boxster-5/
Very familiar with BAT. Using the recent 718 gt4 listings as a guide, seems like MSRP might not be out of the realm of possibility if I am patient and not that picky. That is an incredible spyder!

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Originally Posted by SpyderSenseOC
i'd say it's probably worth around a buck 29.
Sure it's not a buck 05?

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