New/Used Inventory GT4, Spyder, GTS for Sale
#1621
You can’t compare an auction site to dealer prices.
Dealer prices are just asks; otherwise just pick one up via private sale or auction.
Spoiler alert, lot of private sellers think their car is priceless.
Really, are these just rhetorical questions. Go in and talk to a dealer, see what they say. My dealer had a GT4 on the floor couple weeks back for $149,999 and it’s not there now. Suspect they closed close to that.
Dealer prices are just asks; otherwise just pick one up via private sale or auction.
Spoiler alert, lot of private sellers think their car is priceless.
Really, are these just rhetorical questions. Go in and talk to a dealer, see what they say. My dealer had a GT4 on the floor couple weeks back for $149,999 and it’s not there now. Suspect they closed close to that.
#1622
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I appreciate the insight. I am just trying to figure out real money on these before pulling the trigger. Seems the GT4 market may be softening a bit. Sometimes asking prices can prop a market up, but what people are closing on is a different story. They look like wonderful cars and look forward to owning one soon. 🤞
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#1626
How do you buy a car unseen ? How do you ensure the car is not in an accident ? I am in a similar situation on a certified boxster and have no issues related to mechanical piece as car is certified but not sure how to verify if the car is not involved in an accident / damage without a personal inspection
The 718 GTS 4.0 gets here in 3-4 days and we'll all know. You do have to ask a lot of questions. This car was a Porsche Digital company car with 2518 miles and I'm buying from a Porsche dealer. I wouldn't touch a car being sold by a used car dealer or individual without seeing it.--frankly if it's been hit and repaired let's think about it. I've seen pictures of the car from all angles and even the undercarriage which looks as unmolested as is possible. So that likely rules out any major accident and I'm not worried about something minor. Also the car's been in service for 19 months, so that may minimize the risk of unreported accidents in CA. I'm betting no hits.
Furthermore, arctic silver metallic is not a hard color to paint and it will be invisible to anything other than a paint meter in the event some damage occurred and was R &R. I'm betting the car's fine. I don't know what I'd figure out from seeing the car in person, honestly on a car this new and clean.
And lastly, guess what? I'm not the only trusting person in the world buying cars. Yesterday a man from Iowa who was in Dallas visiting one of his sons, drives all the way out to East TX, looks at and buys my 67 Corvette Convertible for my full askiing price without driving it and didn't even ride in it with me driving. It never left the 4 post lift. Mine is not a museum numbers matching car--it's NOM. How could he do that? The horror. Because I told him everything wrong with the car, and let all the good speak for itself. For all he knows the car could wobble and creak all the way down the road, have crappy brakes and smoke like a freight train (it doesn't; it drives like it should and is a well screwed together 56 year old car). He trusted me and he did look the car over carefully to see if I misrepresented anything.
If the selling Porsche dealer hasn't been transparent with me (they told me it is perfect and sent me oodles of pictures that I asked for as confirmation), they're in a world of trouble from me--I'm a retired attorney who can do battle with best of them. I highly doubt a division of Porsche as the prior owner and PCNA is going to dump a steaming pile of poop on the used car market. They would have sent this car to auction as opposed to selling to the Porsche dealer that sold it to me. For example, I saw a preowned 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 for sale at a CT VW dealer which carfax disclosed was a lemon law repurchase in CA for air conditioning issues. That car isn't for sale by a Porsche dealer.
Check back with me next Friday. I'll tell you the good and bad. I'm not losing any sleep fearing that I've bought a POS. I'm excited and cannot wait to see and drive it
If anything doesn't pass the smell test, run (or get on a plane and check it out). Each person can decide what risks they're comfortable taking.
#1627
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How much would you be willing to pay extra for a '23 GT4 with 300 miles that is optioned to your liking, but one that had a small accident at the factory, and had its bumper and right fender replaced (and painted without the rest of the car) - at the official shop at Stuttgart?
#1629
How much would you be willing to pay extra for a '23 GT4 with 300 miles that is optioned to your liking, but one that had a small accident at the factory, and had its bumper and right fender replaced (and painted without the rest of the car) - at the official shop at Stuttgart?
Apples and oranges, but I looked at a '23 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 that was for sale by a dealer with less than 1,000 miles--we couldn't agree on price. They were around $2500 over sticker and I'm philosophically opposed to paying more than sticker, particularly to a dealer that sold this particular car to the original owner. Despite my aversion to paying ADM, I offered $750 over sticker, no more than $200 doc fee, and CPO included. Dealer came down, pulled CPO off the table and we were still about a grand apart when I walked. Dealer could not believe I "let that car go for $1,000". I said back, I cannot believe you let a cash buyer out the door for $1,000.
Everybody has to decide what their willing to pay for a car--if the price is worth it to you, I wouldn't sweat the paint issue unless it shows on carfax as Eric 11 pointed out. If it does it may chill a sale down the road. I personally passed on a car that CarFax said had minor front end damage (in an accident after sale).
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#1630
Porsche Ocala has a new 2023 CGTS4.0 on the lot. They're asking $10k ADM but willing to do MSRP for local customers.
https://www.porscheofocala.com/inven...d2a88pk271556/
https://www.porscheofocala.com/inven...d2a88pk271556/
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#1632
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How much would you be willing to pay extra for a '23 GT4 with 300 miles that is optioned to your liking, but one that had a small accident at the factory, and had its bumper and right fender replaced (and painted without the rest of the car) - at the official shop at Stuttgart?
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#1635
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https://www.revvedmotors.com/details...6ms240250.html
seems like a good price (under msrp). well equipped - lwbs, pccb, extended leather, etc
seems like a good price (under msrp). well equipped - lwbs, pccb, extended leather, etc