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Old 01-06-2023, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JAhmed
Gears alone wake the car up, but the motor transforms the car altogether. I’ve had both setups.
So what octane are you required to run @JAhmed ?
And do you have any optional maps, such as, 91 or 93?
Old 01-06-2023, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DFW01TT
So what octane are you required to run @JAhmed ?
And do you have any optional maps, such as, 91 or 93?
98 octane. Full tank of 93 here in Illinois, plus 8oz of Boostane per tank. No additional maps.
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Old 01-06-2023, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JAhmed
98 octane. Full tank of 93 here in Illinois, plus 8oz of Boostane per tank. No additional maps.
Clearest answer yet, thank you.
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Old 01-06-2023, 11:46 AM
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I and I am sure others would like to know if for the 718 4.0l to 4.5l rebuild if there exists the option from the engine builder to have these engines built/configured/mapped to run on 91 or 93 octane pump gas without the need for any octane boost?

I think that as this was discussed and offered early on in the thread it would be of interest to those considering this path to hear directly from Rick @DeMan Motorsport if this is still an option.

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Old 01-06-2023, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JAhmed
98 octane. Full tank of 93 here in Illinois, plus 8oz of Boostane per tank. No additional maps.
With 8oz of additive @ 93 R+M/2 per 16.9 gal. tank (assuming a full fill-up), you're ending up somewhere just north of 99 octane:







Not saying it's a bad thing, less knock is never bad—and what you're doing makes sense if you're looking for an easy way of figuring out measurements, e.g. 1/4 a bottle of Boostane per full tank, 1/8 per half tank, etc.—but just that you could be getting more bang for your buck, i.e. nearly 6 full tank fills per bottle @ 5.5oz vs. the 4 you're getting right now doing 8oz per full tank.

Here's a link to the calculator that @Luca Paindelli put together that I took the above screenshots from: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

I found it much better than the Boostane app, and easier than trying to do the math on the fly using their mixing chart.
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Old 01-06-2023, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by burnergt4
With 8oz of additive @ 93 R+M/2 per 16.9 gal. tank (assuming a full fill-up), you're ending up somewhere just north of 99 octane:







Not saying it's a bad thing, less knock is never bad—and what you're doing makes sense if you're looking for an easy way of figuring out measurements, e.g. 1/4 a bottle of Boostane per full tank, 1/8 per half tank, etc.—but just that you could be getting more bang for your buck, i.e. nearly 6 full tank fills per bottle @ 5.5oz vs. the 4 you're getting right now doing 8oz per full tank.

Here's a link to the calculator that @Luca Paindelli put together that I took the above screenshots from: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

I found it much better than the Boostane app, and easier than trying to do the math on the fly using their mixing chart.
Appreciate the info man!!! You hit the nail on the head…was just being lazy and tossing in 8oz because it’s easy to figure out its 1/4 of the bottle
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Old 01-10-2023, 01:53 PM
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Matt's first "weapons free" driving impression (starts @ 17:50'ish...link should open at said timestamp):



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Originally Posted by colnagoG60
Matt's first "weapons free" driving impression (starts @ 17:50'ish):
Thanks for sharing, great to hear him talk about the results, I hope he makes a video review soon!

He did mention the hassle of the octane boost, it would be nice to know if Rick is still offering the 4.5l build in 91 and 93 octane versions?
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Matt's observations are exactly what I'd expect. The car is an absolute monster, especially compared to a stock one. It easily feels more accelerative and explosive than any GT3 I've ever driven or owned. The octane booster thing doesn't bother me in the slightest, personally. The car is not my daily driver and, if anything, adding the "jungle juice" gives it a little sense of occasion for me. Listening to all of Matt's recent discussion about his car makes me want to ship mine to SoCal and enjoy it now, rather than waiting for the longggggggg Midwest winter to pass .

As a side note, I find Rick's motor so addictive that I've already discussed another project with him for 2023 *MANIACAL LAUGHTER*

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Old 01-11-2023, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JAhmed
Matt's observations are exactly what I'd expect. The car is an absolute monster, especially compared to a stock one. It easily feels more accelerative and explosive than any GT3 I've ever driven or owned. The octane booster thing doesn't bother me in the slightest, personally. The car is not my daily driver and, if anything, adding the "jungle juice" gives it a little sense of occasion for me. Listening to all of Matt's recent discussion about his car makes me want to ship mine to SoCal and enjoy it now, rather than waiting for the longggggggg Midwest winter to pass .

As a side note, I find Rick's motor so addictive that I've already discussed another project with him for 2023 *MANIACAL LAUGHTER*
You wouldn’t dare do what I think you would do, would you?!
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Old 01-11-2023, 02:24 AM
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Anyone know if Matt got the PCCBs? I’m a bit surprised he didn’t do much to the suspension… you go that far on the car, why not all the way.
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Originally Posted by dnimi123
Anyone know if Matt got the PCCBs? I’m a bit surprised he didn’t do much to the suspension… you go that far on the car, why not all the way.
Rick put on PCCB'S for Matt...
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Originally Posted by dnimi123
Anyone know if Matt got the PCCBs? I’m a bit surprised he didn’t do much to the suspension… you go that far on the car, why not all the way.
He just likes to be comfortable. That, and his past forays into suspension changes left him wanting to go back to stock many times.
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Originally Posted by colnagoG60
He just likes to be comfortable. That, and his past forays into suspension changes left him wanting to go back to stock many times.
Yeah I guess… I see him now and then around LA (pretty approachable guy) but haven’t since he got Strawberry Shortcake but he basically said “why would I” when I asked if he would do the suspension. I’m not going to argue with Matt about cars… and kinda going ‘hot rod’ route with the SPYDER isn’t a bad thing at all and he’s got other cars to drive.
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Originally Posted by colnagoG60
He just likes to be comfortable. That, and his past forays into suspension changes left him wanting to go back to stock many times.
Also in one of Rick’s vids, he said that the car really doesn’t need it.


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