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Old 12-17-2021, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Puggz
Do you have a price for the hood/wing stripe?
Not yet....
Old 12-21-2021, 12:20 PM
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Just recieved this answer from the Exclusive Manufaktur department in Germany:

Dear Enrique,

Thank you for your inquiry.

The CXX option you requested is not yet available for order.

This option is currently still being tested and can therefore neither be selected nor ordered.


Unfortunately, we are not yet able to say when this review will be completed.

Any idea how much time this might take?
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Old 12-21-2021, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by electron mike
Yeah I laughed when he said 200 cars. At that number they might not even recoup the engineering and tooling costs on the RS specific parts.
I don't think Porsche cares at all about recouping costs on the RS. It's a niche car (as is the regular GT4). They don't look to them for profits; they sell 100 Macans for every GT4 or RS. For the RS, I'd wager the priorities are:
1) Create excitement in the Porsche enthusiast community (brand strengthening)
2) Homologate for GT4 race series (which is really just more brand strengthening)

Old 12-21-2021, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nobbyv
I don't think Porsche cares at all about recouping costs on the RS. It's a niche car (as is the regular GT4). They don't look to them for profits; they sell 100 Macans for every GT4 or RS. For the RS, I'd wager the priorities are:
1) Create excitement in the Porsche enthusiast community (brand strengthening)
2) Homologate for GT4 race series (which is really just more brand strengthening)
I don't know for sure, but I listened to the Chris Harris podcast with AP and heard AP say that the GT cars had to make money. He also mentioned tooling and development costs several times. Both lead me to believe the cars have to make money and stand on their own to exist.

I also remember him saying the road car development comes first and then is followed by development of the race car derivatives.
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Old 12-21-2021, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by electron mike
I don't know for sure, but I listened to the Chris Harris podcast with AP and heard AP say that the GT cars had to make money. He also mentioned tooling and development costs several times. Both lead me to believe the cars have to make money and stand on their own to exist.

I also remember him saying the road car development comes first and then is followed by development of the race car derivatives.
Interesting. I would not have expected that but maybe I'm wrong. Downloading the Collecting Cars Podcast w/ AP now.
Old 12-21-2021, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nobbyv
Interesting. I would not have expected that but maybe I'm wrong. Downloading the Collecting Cars Podcast w/ AP now.
Porsche is the world's most profitable vehicle manufacturer in the world - I would bet they are not losing money on anything they build.
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Old 12-21-2021, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Z.
Porsche is the world's most profitable vehicle manufacturer in the world - I would bet they are not losing money on anything they build.
"Because Wiedeking didnt get out of bed uhhh . . . without making money"

"It had to make a profit"

- - - Andrea Preuninger in the Chris Harris "Collecting Cars" podcast 33:30 mark about building 195 RS models.





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Old 12-21-2021, 05:52 PM
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"We actually wound up making 700 RS' and then ran out of tooling" - - Andreas Preuninger


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Old 12-21-2021, 06:00 PM
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Porsche now rates profit over almost all other considerations. They charge $5k to change the thread in a sewing machine. This may have come from years of being on the edge of going under.

When they say it's under review, that means they are trying to figure out exactly how much they think they can charge for it.
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Old 12-21-2021, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Loess
Porsche now rates profit over almost all other considerations. They charge $5k to change the thread in a sewing machine. This may have come from years of being on the edge of going under.

When they say it's under review, that means they are trying to figure out exactly how much they think they can charge for it.
But they had to spend time and money on a 12 month study on the died thread to make sure it would work..cough…you would pay that much.
Old 12-22-2021, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by raymort
Thoughts on whether a Cxx option to paint the Naca ducts would be more or less than the stripe?

unbelievable how much better 991.2 RS looks vs gt4 rs
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Old 12-22-2021, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ldamelio
FWIW, my SA said that they are going to build all of their GT4RS allocations to dealer spec. Implication was that they would then put them in the showroom with hefty ADM and see what sticks. Not sure how the hyper-VIPs will feel about that.
Total BS, I'm sure.
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Old 12-22-2021, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by electron mike
I don't know for sure, but I listened to the Chris Harris podcast with AP and heard AP say that the GT cars had to make money. He also mentioned tooling and development costs several times. Both lead me to believe the cars have to make money and stand on their own to exist.

I also remember him saying the road car development comes first and then is followed by development of the race car derivatives.
Yeah, Porsche is part of a public company charged with making a profit - They aren't Haas Motorsports...
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Old 12-22-2021, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nobbyv
I don't think Porsche cares at all about recouping costs on the RS. It's a niche car (as is the regular GT4). They don't look to them for profits; they sell 100 Macans for every GT4 or RS. For the RS, I'd wager the priorities are:
1) Create excitement in the Porsche enthusiast community (brand strengthening)
2) Homologate for GT4 race series (which is really just more brand strengthening)
Porsche doesn't build cars not to make money so stop thinking that the GT4RS that they'll intentionally limit production of. They'll build as many as they can but sure not everyone who wants one will get one at MSRP.
Old 12-22-2021, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by raymort
Yeah, Porsche is part of a public company charged with making a profit - They aren't Haas Motorsports...
I don't know why some people think that Porsche is building cars for collectors, so dumb. I want to reach across the screen and head slap the people that say that on here. They are building cars to make $$$$$$....DUH
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