JAhmed

Yes, there will be an MY25

dnimi123

Duh…. They are going to build more 4RS than GT4s

Odin

No GT4RS is built after september 2024, so no MY25 GT4RS. Cybersecurity legislation dictates scrappng 718 and ICE Macan for 2025. Deliveries might run into 2025, but that’s late MY24 production being delivered.

TXshaggy

No new 718s, regardless of trim, can be delivered in the EU starting 1 July 2024 because of cybersecurity regs.

This also impacts some Asian countries with same/similar regs.

PAG says 718s will continue in other markets for some time post 718 EV launch.

How long and what trims? Guess away

matttheboatman

The entire EV business model is being questioned by Porsche and every other ICE manufacturer hoping to convert to EV. Whatever timeline existed previously assumed the adoption of the buying public. That ain't happening and dealers are saying whoa. So for this reason, I believe Porsche and every other builder will continue to build the ICE vehicles that EVs were designed to replace. Being that the GT4RS was one of the "swan song" ICE vehicles, it will continue to be built by default. This is all just my opinion.

Chartreuse

very well could be. The EV market was not what the tree huggers told us it would be so the ICE’s may get a reprieve. However, My SA said no ‘25 for the 4RS today but we all know how trustworthy SA words are. He didn’t know the 992.2 was getting an NA engine either. Go figure.

Visceral

Whatever anyone's reason for buying an EV is, my Taycan Cross Turismo Turbo is the best car in the garage for everyday driving... better than the Cayenne, better than the GT3, better than the 4RS. This is just my opinion, but I'd be disappointed to have to drive anything else.

BAreaTransplant

So just to confirm on the cybersecurity law going into effect in the EU: is it because the 718 platform does not have the necessary capabilities as an older platform than the 992 911?
One has to wonder at what point if that market disappears, as well as some Asian countries, whether Porsche will want to continue the 4RS or retool for other compliant models such as ( but not exclusively) the 718 EV

BAreaTransplant

Which Cayenne (model and year) do you have and what year is the Taycan if you don't mind me asking. I have the 4RS and the Cayenne GTS and for slow commutes the higher pov in the Cayenne is nice vs a sedan/coupe, what makes the Taycan more compelling to you?

jayson

Surely this is an issue that can easily be resolved if Porsche wants it to be. The 718 isn't exactly loaded with tech where data privacy would be an issue, especially compared to other cars that are currently (and will continue to be) in production.

ExMB

In this case you misunderstand cybersecurity. Its actually adding required Big Brother stuff and the necessary support equipment.

TXshaggy

During RR7 PAG briefed meeting the new regs would be equivalent to the total investment for a clean sheet 983 design.

They’ve know about it for years.

If it was “easy” PAG would have done it

Ksdaoski

GT4rs sucks. Buy a GT3 instead. Problem solved.

jayson

For those curious about the cybersecurity regulations written for connected vehicles.

WP.29 Cybersecurity Regulation

• Have in place a cybersecurity management system and its application to vehicles on the road is available.
• Provide a risk assessment analysis that identifies critical risks.
• Have measures to detect and mitigate cyberattacks and provide evidence that the mitigations work.
• Possess data forensics capability.
• Monitor activities specific to the vehicle type.
• Transmit monitoring reports to the authority responsible for approving vehicles for sale (homologation authority).

WP.29 Software Update Regulation

• Have in place a software update management system and its application to vehicles on the road is available.
• Protect the software update delivery mechanism and ensure integrity and authenticity.
• Protect software identification numbers.
• Ensure the software identification number is readable from the vehicle.
• Over-the-air software updates must:
• Restore function if the update fails.
• Execute the update only if there is sufficient power.
• Ensure safe execution.
• Inform users about each update and its completion.
• Ensure the vehicle is capable of conducting an update.
• Inform the user when a mechanic is needed.

https://unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/tran...79-Revised.pdf

Alan C.

I purchased a 2023 GT3 Touring and traded it for a GT4 RS 5 months later. Problem solved. 🤣🤣