usctrojanGT3

If they built almost 2,000 Speedsters, they'll build more GT4RSs. My guess is that they'll build half as many of them as they did the GT4s.

dane1984

Do you know when the RS is coming? 2021?

Drifting

that’s a very interesting statement that puts some of your other previous comments into perspective. A special GT4RS for end of the entire 718 generation could come with very special characteristics beyond the usual GT to RS distinctions.

Only one question for you- Will the GT4RS come with an improved version of the 4.0L engine in the GT4, Spyder, etc, or will it come with a detuned 4.0L Motorsport engine from the 991.2 GT3/RS?

The key distinction of the 997 RS 4.0 was that it received a very special 4.0L motorsport engine.

lamacan

i don't know why everyone is laboring the point of which engine. porsche has said millions of times publicly any 911 variant GT engine can't fit in the 718. it's going to be the same engine as a GT4 tuned up. there's no hypothesizing, that's stated fact.

Toothengineer

I love reading all of the possible info about the GT4RS and yes I want one! BUT is the avg buyer even going to be able to get one? I don’t buy 2-3 cars a year from my dealer so it’s almost why do I even read this thread.... or is this car going to be obtainable at msrp where we can legit pick one up?

KelvinC

I agree with this. It seems a bit silly to think Porsche wouldn’t just do a tune and bump on the current 718 4.0L six, a relatively new engine that I’m sure will continue to have life beyond the GT4 and GTS 4.0. Until I definitively hear/read otherwise, I’d imagine the 4.0L will eventually make its way into the GT4 racing models (e.g., 718 Cayman GT4 CS MR).

The platform is already Motorsport as it is available as a racing car from Porsche Motorsport, still using an uptuned version of the 3.8 from the 981 GT4, which I believe started life as a standard Carrera S engine. This is the same engine that is used in SRO GT4 racing class, along with a PDK gearbox without the overdrive 7th gear.

If the engine and gearbox are essentially carried through to actual Motorsport competition, it’s good enough for me. Everything else regarding pulling a GT3 engine is just for marketing and bragging rights.

And even if it doesn’t, what does it matter if it’s still an awesome engine at the end of the day. The GT2 RS and GT2 RS Clubsport does not use the 4.0L from the GT3 but instead pulls from the turbo. That car has rave reviews and from what I can tell (never lucky enough to drive one), is a pretty awesome car to drive.

JAhmed

No

ExMB

Depends how long you've been on the list. There are dealers that will sell for list. But many on here want you to believe that there will be ADM (implying that all dealers will do that) without having actual proof,. Its just conjecture on there part because of their dealer experience.

JAhmed

the proof is in the pudding

Toothengineer

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Wonder if its even to late to start trying to position to attempt to get one....... But guess I would have to give up my GT3 which I have not even picked up yet Unhappy.... so who would give up a .2 gt3 on the gt4rs? Well guess this is why I read this thread daily.

jmartpr

Keep the GT3 unless you really want a mid-engine car....

KelvinC

I think it's a testament to the Cayman's development in Porsche's lineup that some folks might consider this at all. I have no doubt that when it finally comes out, between most weekend track warriors, there won't be much between a GT4RS and a 991.2 GT3 if you're looking at lap times. My guess is still ~450hp, PDK, ~3000 lbs, $140k base MSRP. A 991.2 GT3 at 500hp and 3150lbs or so in the hands of a pro driver will probably still be consistently faster at the track.

But for those that want (or prefer) the mid-engine layout and dynamics, and look of the GT4, it's pretty cool that there's an alternative to the GT3 that offers killer performance at less cost. It's also worth noting that the 992 GT3 will already be out, and likely a step forward from the 991.2 GT3 in terms of overall performance. So there certainly won't be any possibility of performance overlap between the (soon to be) current GT3 and the GT4 RS.

Might someone trade their 991.2 GT3 for a GT4 RS if they had the allocation? There's so many factors that might go into this—balance of warranty, car's condition, itch for something new, possible exclusivity, etc. I'm sure there's quite a few folks who have considered getting a used 991.2 GT3 instead of ordering a new GT4 as prices are starting to get a bit closer, without even mentioning the GT4 RS.

Good to have so many good options to choose from.

Knutsm01

My wish list.

475-490hp 4.0L with beefed up internals for a higher redline, revised intake and exhaust, carbon body work with improved aero, magnesium wheels (option), PDK-S.

It’s going to be expensive and they will easily sell everyone they make. My guess is well optioned at $175K,

This could be the cayman unicorn everyone has always dreamed of, should be a monster on the track.

KelvinC

Perfect.

evilfij

Speedies are under MSRP with delivery miles. 991.2 GT3RS are way under MSRP.

Unless it is a 500 or 1000 limited edition, they will be available. I can’t see them pricing it above GT3RS, but I can see it starting at $150k plus. How many people want one that much?