718 GT4RS
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Just read German forum and they are even worse than RL regarding pricing, etc.
Euro 145k - 150k, w/ Weissach Euro 170k, 500PS, PDK-S. Some are even placing it pricewise between 992 GT3 and 992 GT3RS.
RL has its work cut out.
Euro 145k - 150k, w/ Weissach Euro 170k, 500PS, PDK-S. Some are even placing it pricewise between 992 GT3 and 992 GT3RS.
RL has its work cut out.
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I think the base for the GT4RS will be somewhere between $130k to $140k. Question for me is when they introduce it...next Spring for Fall 2021 delivery making it a 2022 car (they stop production of the regular GT4s in the Fall of 2021) OR do they wait until Spring of 2022 making it a 2023 car? I hope for the former of course.
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I think the base for the GT4RS will be somewhere between $130k to $140k. Question for me is when they introduce it...next Spring for Fall 2021 delivery making it a 2022 car (they stop production of the regular GT4s in the Fall of 2021) OR do they wait until Spring of 2022 making it a 2023 car? I hope for the former of course.
sport still has 18 months of running (3 years total). In addition they won’t release it at the same time as the GT3 in case reviews and lap times come out that show it being faster. Especially true if it gets 475hp.
I would still guess they stop production next year for the GT4 in prep for an early 2022 reveal. I hope I’m wrong since I hope as many people as want one get to enjoy one.
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Nice call of the GTS way back in 2019!
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My guess is 2022. My hypothesis is the club
sport still has 18 months of running (3 years total). In addition they won’t release it at the same time as the GT3 in case reviews and lap times come out that show it being faster. Especially true if it gets 475hp.
I would still guess they stop production next year for the GT4 in prep for an early 2022 reveal. I hope I’m wrong since I hope as many people as want one get to enjoy one.
sport still has 18 months of running (3 years total). In addition they won’t release it at the same time as the GT3 in case reviews and lap times come out that show it being faster. Especially true if it gets 475hp.
I would still guess they stop production next year for the GT4 in prep for an early 2022 reveal. I hope I’m wrong since I hope as many people as want one get to enjoy one.
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Still fits. September = 2021MY. GT3 production through end of calendar 2021. GT4RS/Clubsport reveal Late 2021 with release in 2022 like the GT4/CS? Or reveal very early in 2022 but then they would miss the roar before 24. Maybe Chris will give us some more info in a few months.
With extra production numbers, it wouldn't be a stretch to see the GT3 built through early 2022 as a 2022.
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I think the base for the GT4RS will be somewhere between $130k to $140k. Question for me is when they introduce it...next Spring for Fall 2021 delivery making it a 2022 car (they stop production of the regular GT4s in the Fall of 2021) OR do they wait until Spring of 2022 making it a 2023 car? I hope for the former of course.
here was my guess a little over a year ago 6-19-2019 (450 hp and $125,000 base price) quote from referenced thread (based on the same Petevb chart, I think there's plenty of room for a GT4RS, just put it in there near 992 Carrera S territory, slighty above
I'd guess 450 hp and $125k base price (I think Pete has intentionally made his chart somewhat nebulous simply so you can't draw too specific conclusions, but he has a clear theory of the Porsche pecking order and it seems logical that a GT4RS will fit in there because there's plenty of room between the GT4 and the GT3
of course, this is all speculation! but I don't think I'm a joker
Porsche probably had all this figured out years ago, I don't think they listen to me or anyone else on rennlist
if they did, they would have had a much, much better color selection for the new GT4 and Spyder!
I suspect they've already figured out the pricing for the next GT3, my guess is $165,000 (about 15% increase, bigger than the norm)
they need to resolve the ADM pricing issue or risk losing a lot of enthusiasts
and this was my GT4 guess (But I did my "guess" based on Petevb's chart, trying to interpret where pricing would be given that most cleaning ladies said the car would have 420 hp it's kinda hard to interpret exactly where on that chart the pricing would be but I figured around $100k to $110k)
https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/1146...r-guess-5.html
based on Chris' info, I think the 475 hp GT4RS will start at $145,000 to $150,000
this will be the last NA Cayman produced (pure speculation on my part)
but the gears have to be grinding at PAG HQ right now regarding production numbers, both in total cars and when new models will be introduced
GT4RS between fall 2021 and spring 2022
if someone would analyze the numbers of posts per day in the 718 Spyder/GT4 forum (compared to the 981 posts), I think the interest level (demand for) the 718 models is much lower
why? not just COVID, but GT3 is available in a manual, and lots of GT3s, and pricing on GT4/Spyder is pretty robust compared to the previous iteration, comparison of new car vs old car isn't a big delta, and what am I missing?
dealers have the right to charge whatever ADM they think they can get
maybe PAG restraining production numbers will give them some comfort
as I mentioned earlier in this thread, my dealer told me 2 months ago there would be a $100k ADM for the GT4RS even though I requested to be 'put on the list' in Feb 2015 (I still have the email)
he called it a market price
so, we'll see
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A $100K ADM puts a well built GT4RS in the $250K orbit. Wow, that would be a bummer.
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We all know what "well built" means; not the same to everybody.
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I think you're probably in the ballpark, but on the low side
here was my guess a little over a year ago 6-19-2019 (450 hp and $125,000 base price) quote from referenced thread (based on the same Petevb chart, I think there's plenty of room for a GT4RS, just put it in there near 992 Carrera S territory, slighty above
I'd guess 450 hp and $125k base price (I think Pete has intentionally made his chart somewhat nebulous simply so you can't draw too specific conclusions, but he has a clear theory of the Porsche pecking order and it seems logical that a GT4RS will fit in there because there's plenty of room between the GT4 and the GT3
of course, this is all speculation! but I don't think I'm a joker
Porsche probably had all this figured out years ago, I don't think they listen to me or anyone else on rennlist
if they did, they would have had a much, much better color selection for the new GT4 and Spyder!
I suspect they've already figured out the pricing for the next GT3, my guess is $165,000 (about 15% increase, bigger than the norm)
they need to resolve the ADM pricing issue or risk losing a lot of enthusiasts
and this was my GT4 guess (But I did my "guess" based on Petevb's chart, trying to interpret where pricing would be given that most cleaning ladies said the car would have 420 hp it's kinda hard to interpret exactly where on that chart the pricing would be but I figured around $100k to $110k)
https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/1146...r-guess-5.html
based on Chris' info, I think the 475 hp GT4RS will start at $145,000 to $150,000
this will be the last NA Cayman produced (pure speculation on my part)
but the gears have to be grinding at PAG HQ right now regarding production numbers, both in total cars and when new models will be introduced
GT4RS between fall 2021 and spring 2022
if someone would analyze the numbers of posts per day in the 718 Spyder/GT4 forum (compared to the 981 posts), I think the interest level (demand for) the 718 models is much lower
why? not just COVID, but GT3 is available in a manual, and lots of GT3s, and pricing on GT4/Spyder is pretty robust compared to the previous iteration, comparison of new car vs old car isn't a big delta, and what am I missing?
dealers have the right to charge whatever ADM they think they can get
maybe PAG restraining production numbers will give them some comfort
as I mentioned earlier in this thread, my dealer told me 2 months ago there would be a $100k ADM for the GT4RS even though I requested to be 'put on the list' in Feb 2015 (I still have the email)
he called it a market price
so, we'll see
here was my guess a little over a year ago 6-19-2019 (450 hp and $125,000 base price) quote from referenced thread (based on the same Petevb chart, I think there's plenty of room for a GT4RS, just put it in there near 992 Carrera S territory, slighty above
I'd guess 450 hp and $125k base price (I think Pete has intentionally made his chart somewhat nebulous simply so you can't draw too specific conclusions, but he has a clear theory of the Porsche pecking order and it seems logical that a GT4RS will fit in there because there's plenty of room between the GT4 and the GT3
of course, this is all speculation! but I don't think I'm a joker
Porsche probably had all this figured out years ago, I don't think they listen to me or anyone else on rennlist
if they did, they would have had a much, much better color selection for the new GT4 and Spyder!
I suspect they've already figured out the pricing for the next GT3, my guess is $165,000 (about 15% increase, bigger than the norm)
they need to resolve the ADM pricing issue or risk losing a lot of enthusiasts
and this was my GT4 guess (But I did my "guess" based on Petevb's chart, trying to interpret where pricing would be given that most cleaning ladies said the car would have 420 hp it's kinda hard to interpret exactly where on that chart the pricing would be but I figured around $100k to $110k)
https://rennlist.com/forums/gt4/1146...r-guess-5.html
based on Chris' info, I think the 475 hp GT4RS will start at $145,000 to $150,000
this will be the last NA Cayman produced (pure speculation on my part)
but the gears have to be grinding at PAG HQ right now regarding production numbers, both in total cars and when new models will be introduced
GT4RS between fall 2021 and spring 2022
if someone would analyze the numbers of posts per day in the 718 Spyder/GT4 forum (compared to the 981 posts), I think the interest level (demand for) the 718 models is much lower
why? not just COVID, but GT3 is available in a manual, and lots of GT3s, and pricing on GT4/Spyder is pretty robust compared to the previous iteration, comparison of new car vs old car isn't a big delta, and what am I missing?
dealers have the right to charge whatever ADM they think they can get
maybe PAG restraining production numbers will give them some comfort
as I mentioned earlier in this thread, my dealer told me 2 months ago there would be a $100k ADM for the GT4RS even though I requested to be 'put on the list' in Feb 2015 (I still have the email)
he called it a market price
so, we'll see
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I have no excess to other GT4RS parts….