ExMB

Interesting. I read some posts on here that indicated a delay of sales until Dec by Porsche for the MY21 PDK version (delivery to customer from Nov to Dec). Mine locked ~ 1+ week early (was 7/31) for additional option changes. Makes one wonder why the pull up dates change but not the others. Mine is listed as 11/13; completion 1 week earlier and delivery 3 weeks earlier than your dates.

Tanx

Knutsm01

Mine still shows 9/25 completion, 10/16 exit emden, 11/6 exit Houston, 12/4 dealer inventory.

lamacan

dealer called back. said all indications from Porsche are fall next year as 2022 model after factory reopens after august holiday. COULD be before, but unlikely.

JAhmed

Just for clarification, this is referring to product launch or product deliveries?

lamacan

deliveries is what i took it as but he didn't clarify, actually. he said it was confirmed by porsche to them as a model late last year for delivery this year, but everything has been pushed back. so the dealers have a clearer confirmation from porsche that the model exists earlier in advance of production than they typically would, due to covid/production delays. it all adds up. my guess is they'll have a year of PDK GT4's in the market before delivering RS's. which would peg it at november next year. the earliest PDK GT4's are being delivered stateside in november, based on customer orders i am personally aware of (friends, etc.) and what the dealer is telling me.

JAhmed

Dang. Yes this seems consistent with what I am hearing. I wonder (timeline wise) where the 992 GT3 will drop...I am told the GT4RS will be much more difficult to obtain at MSRP than the next GT3

ExMB

My V250 was earlier than yours but the rest of your dates are earlier than mine. Maybe my SA is lazier than yours with updates.

I discount dealer inventory due to delivery distance involved. But it shouldn't take a month, in your case, to go from Huston to your location.

lamacan

makes sense. as a cayman > 911 person, the cayman insecurity is real. the market for a $150K+ cayman is limited so i am sure they will produce less/be ordered cars mainly.

and porsche made so many 991.2 GT3's and they tanked so fast in value i don't think they'll get away with the ADM game in the same way. you can buy auction cars for $130-$140K now. a year later. any ADM on a car that there are 10,000+ of is absolutely stupid. i've had boring BMW's with lower production numbers.

maybe for the first few dealer lot allocations that aren't orders or new to the brand people will pay ADM on GT3.

but again, everything i am hearing is porsche will produce as many cars as they can sell. dealer will give me below MSRP on a regular GT4 if i want he said.

all this being said, dealer lists are real. express your interest. they relay the interest to porsche. they can trade allocations, etc. based on what they said early on about GT4 allocations, porsche listens to customer demand.

get your name out there, stay positive and communicate with your dealer regularly.

i mean ****, you could lease a base cayman or macan for 24 months and then do a lease pull ahead after 12 months when the RS arrives and you then have a relationship with your dealer. that $12,000 spent on the lease will be cheaper than the ADM you might otherwise pay.

btw, if you're in the market, i've discussed with my dealer in the past, which they agreed to, was don't charge me ADM on XYZ car and i'll lease a macan at MSRP instead of the 7-8% off you'd give me normally. then you get to residualize what would otherwise be an ADM into a preferred rate on a lease and the dealer makes the same money (assuming you're only paying like a $5,000-$10,000 ADM). like i said, communicate and get creative.

also, with experience center delivery, your dealer network is much wider. so if you're on the west coast or east coast, do experience center delivery and drive it home. then any dealer in the country is open to you.

Knutsm01

My original freeze date was 7/15. He did confirm no 2021’s will be sold before 12/4, mandated straight from Porsche, guessing why that shows 12/4 as dealer inventory. So likely my car will be sitting at the dealer for 3 weeks before I can take delivery or it will get held at port. The east coast guys should be a week ahead of mine for being stateside.

evilfij

Not that I want a PDK GT4, but has anyone checked the CARB submissions and approvals? VAG products tend to get held up (wonder why ....) so that is a good source of info. It’s not unusual to have cars built and sit at port for months even (Don’t ask me how I know) at least for CARB states deliveries (basically both coasts and a few in the middle).

lamacan

correct. this has been virtually every new porsche model for the last 2 years. stuck in port for 30+ days.

ForeverCar

PDK is a no-go for me. If PDK only, I will look for a 997.2 3.8L GT3RS.

Pretty much any spec GT4RS with a manual, I am in. Depending on how different than a GT4, I will decide to trade or add. Not that I really want Porsche to know but I am not too price sensitive since there aren’t good choices for great sports car with N/A engine and manual transmission.

spyderphile

You and your dealer seem to have a better visibility on production road map. Would you know what's the likely production run for Spyder? If you don't, could you ask your dealer? Thanks.

lamacan

never going to happen. as someone said, RS has been PDK only for two cycles now. GT's would be PDK only too if americans didn't complain. the rest of the world didn't care.

lamacan

i'll ask. standby.