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If this car pricing is anything, especially the WP and mag wheels), it’s a showing that PAG wants to get some of that ADM.
So, for everyone saying PAG should increase the MSRP so the ADM goes away, PAG just did. Now watch ADM stay and get bigger because of the crazy market.
This is a buy at 145k US. This is a no buy at 175k + 50k ADM.
Anyone is thinking to add if possible Extended Deviated Stitching Interior Package ? XVL
The interior does not match with yellow or red unfortunately.
Yeah, the interior options are pretty terrible this time. I wanted to get shark blue with yellow accents inside. It also sucks that you can't get black bucket seats. Don't like the light grey or the blue.
Yeah, the interior options are pretty terrible this time. I wanted to get shark blue with yellow accents inside. It also sucks that you can't get black bucket seats. Don't like the light grey or the blue.
I'm astonished that there's no option for red! That said... the blue is subtle enough that I think it would go fine in a red car. But still... red would be better.
Even if it's the same height as the GT4, I encounter several areas that I scrape the front. Best advice I could give is, if you think you MIGHT need it, get it. You will not like that sound....at all.
Just configured the GT4RS in Canadian market, fully loaded the price came to be about the same as a fully specced 992 GT3... which makes me think twice now on actually ordering.
The car is most likely faster than my old 3RS but a 911 is a 911 at the end of the day, and I've always been a bigger fan of 911s. While I like the GT4s cuz they're attractive with a manual, I think the price of the PDK only GT4RS is a bit too high since properly specced its now in the GT3 ballpark. People call it the mid engine gt3 but really theres still some big differences, just making the engine the same doesn't make it quite there with the big brother, as can be told from the nurburgring analysis. It would have to really be insanely good to convince me to trade my old 3RS for this car...
Plus the WP is really just cosmetics at this point, no real proven weight reduction and performance benefits. The clubsport race car has all plastic parts like the non WP car, even without the window intake scoop. The mag wheels yes, but I like the design of the standard and can get a set of track wheels to abuse for way less money and have similar weight reduction. But ordering without these may hurt the car's ability to hold value as evident in the .2 3RS with and without WP, not that it matters alot but lets be real everyone likes to see the car hold value better even when its a forever car. Plus tbh the carbon parts from WP do look really good, but fully loaded is really just too expensive to justify... making it awkward to choose.
At almost 5 inches front clearance on my GT4 which is similar to GT3, I am skipping FAL for my GT3 order. In my area of driving I rarely encounter issue with scraping.
Just configured the GT4RS in Canadian market, fully loaded the price came to be about the same as a fully specced 992 GT3... which makes me think twice now on actually ordering.
Then you didn’t spec them similarly. There’s still a sizable gap between the price.
The lack of a manual makes me not want to consider the RS. I think the regular GT4 is enough for me.
Dealer said, there is a 25 person wait list and they only have one allocation. Are any of these selling at MSRP? I'm seeing used start to pop up but there is no way I'm paying over MSRP for used.
I have been out of Porsche since 2017 when I sold my 997. I have been driving an Alfa Romeo Giulia QV as my driver's car but with the ability to hold baby seats. It has been a fantastic car and is arguably the most engaging sedan to drive. However, no manual option and I miss rowing my own gears. The only two cars that I would consider trading it for are the GT3 touring and the GT4. Since the GT3 is even harder to come by and more than I want to spend, I think I'm in the market for a GT4 but there doesn't seem to be any available. Maybe I sell my Alfa now while resale prices are good and wait for the right GT4?
At almost 5 inches front clearance on my GT4 which is similar to GT3, I am skipping FAL for my GT3 order. In my area of driving I rarely encounter issue with scraping.
John
I thought I recall hearing that FAL creates limitations on how much you can lower the car in stock form. At least that is what I recalled in the 3 RS. Perhaps with aftermarket suspension. But I'm not doing that on a 4 RS out of the gate.
So... 991.2 had 500 hp as well. Not the slight bump the 992 got. It did the Ring on Cup2's. Not Cup2R's. It did a 7:12.7.
GT4RS did a 7:04.5. It's 8 seconds faster.
Haven't they said the Cup2R's are good for about 8 seconds?
So are they bang-on identical in performance?
On the GT3/RS the CupR tires are worth around 10-12 seconds (per Manthey Racing)
Also the lap comparison of GT3 vs GT4RS shows a ton of understeer in the 4RS at the limit, requiring the driver to induce throttle off oversteer. At/near the limit the 4RS may be quite a handful.
...Also the lap comparison of GT3 vs GT4RS shows a ton of understeer in the 4RS at the limit, requiring the driver to induce throttle off oversteer. At/near the limit the 4RS may be quite a handful.
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11-18-2021, 09:52 AM
