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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake;[url=tel:17791433
17791433[/url]]If it were 5-lug, i could be convinced to trade for my 992 GT3. Well maybe not, but this is a great car. Still has tractor suspension, but works well enough....
Not the case with GT3
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but rather "production car lap records". That means you have to draw the line somewhere and that line is pretty simple : a vehicle as can be purchased by a customer, full stop.
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But guess what... you can't purchase these cars with a roll cage in the USA. And the cars come without particulate filters here but with them in the rest of the world. So, that kind of throws a monkey wrench in the idea that Ring times have to be 100% OEM Factory without any changes. At the end of the day, the biggest difference is tires. If the tires used were non-street-legal, that's another story. But they are both street legal and available should you want to use them. I don't think using an actual racing seat is a big deal. That's a safety thing and not an example of Porsche trying to cheat or game the system IMO.
You have picked 1 thing out of many I outlined.
What about using track pads?
Or A/C and Radio delete? Whats the purpose of removing those? Because if there is an accident the radio might kill the driver?
Why are there now "track pads" and owners of 992 GT3s complain brakes pretty much failing under aggressive driving (never an issue in 991)?
Why cant you and I order a 992 GT3 today, right now, with Cup2R tires but they come with Good Years?
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Meh, I have no skin in this game, and I'm all about "doing it oneself", and "on the budget" if possible, yada yada yada...I also am/was above average in strength/athletic ability. That said, as I age, I've been pulling muscles et al, just getting out of bed some mornings. After seeing Matt, a big boy, struggle with them, if I had CLs, I'm not about all that "strain/effort", if I got a flat on a road trip, in the middle of nowhere. $5k, "for me", is worth not having to wait on the side of the road, or have someone not familiar with CLs at a "tire shop" jack up my wheel, or have me laid up because I tore something "else"...both my ACLs are enough. Let alone the possibility of needing someone else in the car to keep the wheel straight?
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I can't say how/why, but that example feels different than using R compound Cup 2s instead of N2. Or Porsche just selling the car with R compound. I don't know why they don't offer them as at least an option. But my guess is because they don't last long enough and customers would complain. The tires you pictured are basically slicks disguised as street legal to get DOT approval. If a car company wanted to set the ultimate ring time, they could very well sell the car with those as an option, and then be "in the clear". There's always a way to game the system. I'm not obsessed with Ring times. So when a company uses R tires or a racing seat, it doesn't bother me I guess.
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I thought the US-spec cars come with particulate filters, containing 80-95% of the material found in the canisters of what is in the ROW cars? At least the first year's worth of cars.
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Meh, I have no skin in this game, and I'm all about "doing it oneself", and "on the budget" if possible, yada yada yada...I also am/was above average in strength/athletic ability. That said, as I age, I've been pulling muscles et al, just getting out of bed some mornings. After seeing Matt, a big boy, struggle with them, if I had CLs, I'm not about all that "strain/effort", if I got a flat on a road trip, in the middle of nowhere. $5k, "for me", is worth not having to wait on the side of the road, or have someone not familiar with CLs at a "tire shop" jack up my wheel, or have me laid up because I tore something "else"...both my ACLs are enough. Let alone the possibility of needing someone else in the car to keep the wheel straight?
A cheaper solution, but also way more costly than it should be, is the renntorque unit. it's both a torque multiplier, and it uses your wheel to provide the counter force. So very low force (~120lbs with a regular torque wrench) no person, no clamp, no issues with bleeding or changing pads, etc.
I'm going ghetto - which is a $300 torque multiplier that uses the floor to react, 3/4" digital torque gauge, my old Snapon 1/2" beam torque wrench, and a woodworking clamp.
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Originally Posted by GrantG
The suspension alone is holding the GT4 RS back in comparison with the GT3. Not to mention,if you're going with pdk only(for track times)
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Anyway...a step forward giving the Cayman a GT3 engine...
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The question of sandbagging does not refer to Porsche’s development of the GT4 RS, it refers to rumors that their laptime of 7:09 was intentionally slower than its potential best lap. This analyst and others had hinted or suggested that in the past.
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Originally Posted by GrantG
The question of sandbagging does not refer to Porsche’s development of the GT4 RS, it refers to rumors that their laptime of 7:09 was intentionally slower than its potential best lap. This analyst and others had hinted or suggested that in the past.
Perhaps " sandbagging " is not the right word to describe it,but they're certainly holding back the 4 RS a bit so that it doesn't outperform the GT3...IMO of course...
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Coupled with the fact that they got a driver not as familiar with the track as other "factory drivers".
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The non weissach with the body color hood, cleaner window intake vents, and black plastic parts instead of carbon is growing on me. It's just so clean.
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