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Old 05-13-2022, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TXshaggy
Apparently you’ve never seen the small print on the bottom of the Porsche Build and Price…dealer sets actual sales price.

I’ll defer to dealer management on how to best manage clients and inventory.
You’re talking about what Porsche dealerships are allowed to do legally. I’m talking about how Porsche dealerships should conduct themselves. Some do, most don’t. I get it; I’m crying.
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Old 05-13-2022, 12:36 AM
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I don't disagree with any of that. As plenty have said on here previously, if you ain't V200, you don't have ****.

This would be my first Porsche, and Porsche North America referred me to this dealership after an event they invited me to, so I'd be lying to say this hasn't put a bad taste in my mouth, but I'm not losing sleep over it. It's not how I would do business, but it is what it is.

Do I think there is value on not jerking around someone who is entering the brand in an effort to help create dealership/brand loyalty? Yes, but I also think they're willing to gamble that I'm going to like the car and brand regardless of whatever ****ty process they put me through, and I hate to admit it, but they're probably right.

So dear other manufacturers, if you can create a car that competes with what I'd get out of a GT4 without jerking me around for a year, the inbox is open. Otherwise, I'm still typing on Rennlist
Yes, not going to disagree with any of that. The unfortunate problem is if you like the GT4, there is literally nothing new similar to it for competition IMO unless you shop within the Porsche brand so you can't really take your money elsewhere. The Emira is probably the closest thing but doesn't exist. If you really stretch it you could potentially cross shop a M2 or a vette, but I didn't even consider those as options myself. Porsche could sell the GT4 in frozen berry only and I'd still have ordered one, i think.
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Old 05-13-2022, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Rasputin.
You’re talking about what Porsche dealerships are allowed to do legally. I’m talking about how Porsche dealerships should conduct themselves. Some do, most don’t. I get it; I’m crying.
Lots of people pressed against the glass looking in. All believe they deserve a car; most at MSRP.

15 on a list at my dealer for base 718s.

Relationship, out of market, ADM, past purchase history, etc all in play and meaningful. These RL stories pretty one sided. Everyone getting a car has a story.

I still go in to my local liquor store even though they have my preferred drink on the shelf for 3 X MSRP…depending on what I spend in there might get it for 2 X MSRP.
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Old 05-13-2022, 02:14 AM
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Anybody with an MY23 allocation have any luck with PCCBs yet? PTS feedback?
Old 05-13-2022, 08:27 PM
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Just stopped by at the dealer today and gave them an additional deposit for pts, SA said that 5/16 was the last date for submitting if I wanted to go with pts. Currently V110, showed end of September for the production date, but was told thats more of a placeholder and can change until pcna approves the pts request and it goes to v200. Pccb's were available but I went with irons. This is for an rs.

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Old 05-13-2022, 09:17 PM
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I got a MY'22 allocation, the only thing was I could not spec it with a cage for some reason. Which is ok as I can just do an aftermarket later. And 6 point harnesses don't look to be bolted to the cage.
Old 05-13-2022, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cafe_racer
I got a MY'22 allocation, the only thing was I could not spec it with a cage for some reason. Which is ok as I can just do an aftermarket later. And 6 point harnesses don't look to be bolted to the cage.
Can you say more about when you first asked for an allocation, how long you waited, where are you located (approx obviously, doesn't have to be too specific), what model, and if you paid an ADM or MSRP? Good details that help the group out here as we all search for some of these unicorn allocations...
Old 05-13-2022, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JDWight
Anybody with an MY23 allocation have any luck with PCCBs yet? PTS feedback?
When I was finalizing my order for my confirmed my23 GT4 two weeks ago, the PCNA rep said that PCCB was available again for my23. I considered it, but still went steel.
My car is PTS for reference also. Estimated build is mid September,
Old 05-14-2022, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by aerohead80
Can you say more about when you first asked for an allocation, how long you waited, where are you located (approx obviously, doesn't have to be too specific), what model, and if you paid an ADM or MSRP? Good details that help the group out here as we all search for some of these unicorn allocations...
Hi there, I am in Australia, paid MSRP - GT4RS - deposit down for 5 months at two dealerships and waited to see which came up first! Think I was quite lucky as someone pulled out and I got a call saying I could get a build slot but had to lock it that day. Build is June/July delivery in Oct.
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Old 05-14-2022, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by cafe_racer
Hi there, I am in Australia, paid MSRP - GT4RS - deposit down for 5 months at two dealerships and waited to see which came up first! Think I was quite lucky as someone pulled out and I got a call saying I could get a build slot but had to lock it that day. Build is June/July delivery in Oct.
Wow awesome and congrats!
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Old 05-14-2022, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JDWight
Anybody with an MY23 allocation have any luck with PCCBs yet? PTS feedback?
I was offered a MY23 allocation today (Spyder) and asked about PCCB. SA said they hadn’t seen any restriction on them.

I’m still not sure if I’ll take the allocation - been waiting a year and was originally told MSRP. Now saying 25k ADM. I get it, but that was also the outside budget for options… suddenly it has become a $150-$160 car after tax, etc.

Anyone have thoughts on what ADMs will do over the next 6 months?
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Old 05-14-2022, 07:24 AM
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as someone who hates ADM and will never pay one if I can help it - If you can afford the ADM and you want the car, pay it. The time horizon to get a car is shrinking fast. If you pass on this you might not have another opportunity before production ends on the Spyder. Assume MY23 is the last run of the regular Spyder and MY24 is only the “RS” variant of the Spyder. That’s it, folks.


Originally Posted by Walter_
Anyone have thoughts on what ADMs will do over the next 6 months?

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Old 05-14-2022, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TXRubicon
as someone who hates ADM and will never pay one if I can help it - If you can afford the ADM and you want the car, pay it. The time horizon to get a car is shrinking fast. If you pass on this you might not have another opportunity before production ends on the Spyder. Assume MY23 is the last run of the regular Spyder and MY24 is only the “RS” variant of the Spyder. That’s it, folks.
And that's exactly the FOMO that these dealers and Porsche want to fan the flame of, real or otherwise. I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's frustrating.

Is the 2025 EV timeframe driven by something outside of Porsche's control (regulations, etc.)? If it's their own date, then I'm very skeptical that it's not being used to spur a lot of sales and they can easily suddenly 'change their minds' and make more ICE cars if they are making high profits hand over fist.
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Old 05-14-2022, 12:21 PM
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Anybody else having trouble getting “track your dream” to work today?
Old 05-14-2022, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JDWight
Anybody else having trouble getting “track your dream” to work today?
No, but this happened to me about a week ago on the day I was supposed to schedule production. I couldn’t access it for about 12 hours and convinced myself my dates were slipping. Turns out, I didn’t have to worry: when it came back, dates were all still the same.


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