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Old 05-02-2022, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SmallCapTrader
If there are lots of people who have been waiting years for an MSRP allocation, what will happen next year when they find out they won't be getting an allocation at all? Will ADMs on 718 GT(S)'s spike to insanity levels when FOMO kicks in?
This. I expect there will be high FOMO on these cars. The demand will continue for years.
Old 05-02-2022, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NewKidinTown
This. I expect there will be high FOMO on these cars. The demand will continue for years.
Unless there is a MY24 and then the next generation appeals to the ones who missed out on even that. You never truly know. Maybe they don’t like the next gen and they missed out on MY24, but Lotus comes out with an NA version of the Emira or something that they like (unlikely but you see what I’m getting at). I hope everyone gets one, even if that means lower resale, because I see some of the posts here for the guys that want one and I’m like **** man I really want this guy to get his car, he seems like a nice guy.

sorry for grammar, typing this while walking my dog in the woods
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Old 05-02-2022, 09:34 PM
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Don't step in a hole or your will be in PDK-ville!

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Old 05-02-2022, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by patdonahue
Don't step in a hole or your will be in PDK-ville!
Haha, they are my woods but I am still trying to learn them as my wife and I just moved in last October.
Old 05-02-2022, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Rasputin.
Unless there is a MY24 and then the next generation appeals to the ones who missed out on even that. You never truly know. Maybe they don’t like the next gen and they missed out on MY24, but Lotus comes out with an NA version of the Emira or something that they like (unlikely but you see what I’m getting at). I hope everyone gets one, even if that means lower resale, because I see some of the posts here for the guys that want one and I’m like **** man I really want this guy to get his car, he seems like a nice guy.

sorry for grammar, typing this while walking my dog in the woods
A lotus dealer told me last December that they would get me on the list for the END OF 2023. But, yep, I hope everyone gets their car. Well, as Porsche says, one less car than demand.
I'm not selling, so the aftermarket price can go to zero for all I care.
Old 05-02-2022, 10:25 PM
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I'm at V170 still and waiting on PCNA to approve the build.

I have a commission number, that is what you need more than anything. If it has a commission number, you are good
Old 05-02-2022, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
I'm at V170 still and waiting on PCNA to approve the build.

I have a commission number, that is what you need more than anything. If it has a commission number, you are good
Yeah, that’s not quite right.

You get a commission number with a “Demand Order” V070 status which means nothing.

An actual allocation will have a V200 Delivery Date Determined.

This can roll below V200 depending on options like CXX, PTS, etc, but it starts at 200.

An Allocation is the build date.


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Old 05-02-2022, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TXshaggy
Yeah, that’s not quite right.

You get a commission number with a “Demand Order” V070 status which means nothing.

An actual allocation will have a V200 Delivery Date Determined.

This can roll below V200 depending on options like CXX, PTS, etc, but it starts at 200.

An Allocation is the build date.
Yeah as far as I'm aware a V70 code just means the order is in with the dealership but it doesn't guarantee a car.
Old 05-02-2022, 11:00 PM
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Oh ****!!!! My order got a build date today, my status changed!!! and it is staying a 2022


I've been hawking this thing for over a month too, which I have been stuck in V170 the whole time, so it must have just happened in last few hours.

I have never heard of V070 demand order having a commission number....
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Old 05-02-2022, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
Oh ****!!!! My order got a build date today, my status changed!!! and it is staying a 2022


I've been hawking this thing for over a month too, which I have been stuck in V170 the whole time, so it must have just happened in last few hours.

I have never heard of V070 demand order having a commission number....
Exciting times for sure. Congrats.
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Old 05-02-2022, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
Oh ****!!!! My order got a build date today, my status changed!!! and it is staying a 2022


I've been hawking this thing for over a month too, which I have been stuck in V170 the whole time, so it must have just happened in last few hours.

I have never heard of V070 demand order having a commission number....
Oh wow congrats! I assume with the commission number the dealer also tells you where to go for this tracking app?
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Old 05-02-2022, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Xxyion
Oh wow congrats! I assume with the commission number the dealer also tells you where to go for this tracking app?
Yeah when I got the allocation and it was in V170, they put in my email to porsche when they attach it to a customer name and info and it was sent to my email real fast.
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Old 05-02-2022, 11:35 PM
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A V200 order can go to V170 though which is a PAG Hold where the delivery dates go to TBD with a guaranteed allocation. He said V170, not V070. Two different things. Many of us were V200 and went to V170 for 2 months until this past Friday when we locked and had production dates set again, finally. So yes, a V200 can go back down to a V170 (not 070) even after an allocation is guaranteed. They may even be starting allocations at V170 right now.

Originally Posted by TXshaggy
Yeah, that’s not quite right.

You get a commission number with a “Demand Order” V070 status which means nothing.

An actual allocation will have a V200 Delivery Date Determined.

This can roll below V200 depending on options like CXX, PTS, etc, but it starts at 200.

An Allocation is the build date.

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Old 05-03-2022, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by nd01
Thanks, I don't actually think I can send a PM, but that's ok. I'm near Austin. I've talked to a dealer in Houston and Dallas as well. Houston was willing to put me on the list, but I would be number 20. And the Dallas dealer only services the Dallas metro area.
Ahh ok, gotcha. I have to go in a few weeks to finalize my build. I will chat with them and see if I can help out
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My allocation story, I am gonna have to make a short story long to set the table here, so I beg your indulgence, go grab some popcorn and a beer if you have the time. I had a 21 year old Boxster S of which I was the single owner, and the same dealer had maintained the car for all 21 years. I LOVED the car and I took it in for its 21st annual maintenance in January.


I also have a 2021 Cayman GTS which I also love, the 2001 Boxster S drove just as well as the GTS in its own way especially considering there is a 21 year gap in the cars’ tech. In all 21 years and 26000 miles I never had to bring it in for unscheduled maintenance, rock solid dependable.
I got a call from the dealer when the Boxster was in the shop asking me if I wished to sell the car, I thought about it and decided that I had the thing for 21 years and how long was I going to keep it? I am 72 and IF I kept it another 21 years I could probably be buried in it. I went and spoke to the dealer and told them I was not opposed to selling it but would like to replace it with a new Boxster GTS. They offered me a good price for the Boxster and the deal was closed, (the car went to a very good home of a collector).
The dealer told me they were pretty sure I could get an allocation, I asked about ADM and my S/A and the sales manager told me no ADM on these type cars unless they were like a GT 3 or Cayenne Turbo GT or something else in that stratosphere that was not too common
Then the boat sank, then the war started, then the other boat had some cars break loose on rough seas, it seemed that if Porsche did not have any bad luck they would not have any luck. So it was a matter of being patient. The dealer got ZERO allocation in the March round but today I received notice that with the second round of allocations I now had an allocation for M/Y 23 BGTS @ MSRP with no ADM, stand up guys, absolutely true to their word.
Why another 4.0 GTS? Simple, perhaps I am wrong –I frequently am, but I think we will not see these types of cars again. Porsche like all manufacturers are being politically pushed into the non-ICE realm and these cars are going to be extinct, before their time in my opinion. I have always been a mid-engine fan, I had a 1971 914/6 at one time, and I think these cars are at the peak of their development. I would rather have the 4.0 coupe and drop top now while they are available then wish I had gotten them 2 years down the road. I cannot imagine what it will be like trying to get one of these things in January of 2024.
I wanted to make the point that there are honorable dealers out there that are not driven by avarice and are not putting the thumbscrews on potential customers. I know some good folks on this forum have been jerked around, but there are truly decent honest dealers out there. True, I have a relation with the dealership but the relation works both ways. Mine is 150 mile round trip and I have always been treated fairly and with respect.
It seems that a lot of the ADM madness is in high-roller east, west coast and upper mid-west dealers. My dealer is no slouch, I’ve seen a 918 roll through there and Carrera GT. I never once considered going to another dealer and there are 3-4 within 200 miles. In closing it is my hope that those waiting on a car will get one a comfortable price point and sooner rather than later.
Wishing you all great drives.
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