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05-06-2015, 01:14 AM
Burning Brakes
My last set was 06 front/01 rear (still half+ left, but swapped for the SITT), current set is 08 all round. Prior to that I've run Pagid RS29 on various cars and been happy with them.
The nice thing about the PFCs is they're pre-bedded and good down to the backing plate. The Pagids are trash once they're half-worn, but the RS compound is quite old now and that's (hopefully) been addressed with the newer RSL compounds.
Endless doesn't seem to be very good value for money.
Worth noting that there are new compounds coming out. 08 supersedes 06 and both are now superseded by 12. 11 supersedes 01. 13, 14, 15 also available depending on specific needs.
The nice thing about the PFCs is they're pre-bedded and good down to the backing plate. The Pagids are trash once they're half-worn, but the RS compound is quite old now and that's (hopefully) been addressed with the newer RSL compounds.
Endless doesn't seem to be very good value for money.
Worth noting that there are new compounds coming out. 08 supersedes 06 and both are now superseded by 12. 11 supersedes 01. 13, 14, 15 also available depending on specific needs.
http://www.performancefriction.com/m...criptions.aspx
05-06-2015, 01:27 AM
Sure - will spare everyone the tribological trauma.
Racebrakes just told me the RS19/29 have an insulation layer in front of the backing plate and that layer it is not a brake compound. Pre-bedded is nice. Considerable stress immediately pre-race on Sunday as I whipped the Grinch off to a 'secret location' to bed the Hawk Blues John had just fitted up front. Does everyone realise Hampton is right next to a prison?
Matt: I have a spare medium helmet that should comply but it's a full face.
Matt: I have a spare medium helmet that should comply but it's a full face.
05-06-2015, 01:46 AM
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You don't see much other than 08, 06 and 01 in Porsche sizes though. I did see some 11's a while back but even PFC's own website is terribly old and needs an update.
http://www.performancefriction.com/m...criptions.aspx
http://www.performancefriction.com/m...criptions.aspx
If you click Motorsports -> Compound Descriptions, you're taken to http://www.performancefriction.com/m...criptions.aspx which is current.
I haven't seen the other new compounds in Porsche shapes yet, but 11 is available for most Porsches: http://www.apexperformance.net/CartG...es-porsche.asp. 11 is what the 991 Cup cars are delivered with, apparently.
Interesting, will have to have a closer look next time I've got a set handy. I wonder how thick it is. That could explain the behaviour I mentioned.
05-06-2015, 01:49 AM
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05-06-2015, 02:11 AM
Burning Brakes
How'd you get to that link? It is out of date and they should take it down or redirect to the updated page.
If you click Motorsports -> Compound Descriptions, you're taken to http://www.performancefriction.com/m...criptions.aspx which is current.
I haven't seen the other new compounds in Porsche shapes yet, but 11 is available for most Porsches: http://www.apexperformance.net/CartG...es-porsche.asp. 11 is what the 991 Cup cars are delivered with, apparently.
Interesting, will have to have a closer look next time I've got a set handy. I wonder how thick it is. That could explain the behaviour I mentioned.
If you click Motorsports -> Compound Descriptions, you're taken to http://www.performancefriction.com/m...criptions.aspx which is current.
I haven't seen the other new compounds in Porsche shapes yet, but 11 is available for most Porsches: http://www.apexperformance.net/CartG...es-porsche.asp. 11 is what the 991 Cup cars are delivered with, apparently.
Interesting, will have to have a closer look next time I've got a set handy. I wonder how thick it is. That could explain the behaviour I mentioned.
Chris Taylor - lots of Cayman info on Planet-9 forums. Looks like 08 fronts and 06 rears, but I'd be going same on all 4's with the cayman's more neutral grip levels. 08 or 06. 08 has more progressive initial bite apparently. 01 or 11 is prob too aggressive for road use, and cold bite will be a problem. I'm sure Matt G can comment on how driving down from Aucks on 01's was??
05-06-2015, 03:55 AM
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05-06-2015, 04:28 AM
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I have always run the pagid enduro pad (yellows) - as you get a season (they last about as long as the disks) and they didn't squeel.
I am keen to try the endless pads Macca talks about, but not sure on their durabilty.
To be honest - the brakes are so good on a Cayman R, you could just run stock and possibly look at cooling scoops (if Caymans don't have them?). I would be suprised if you had a brakes issue in a Cayman R?
When you change the pads - change the disks too for best results.
I am keen to try the endless pads Macca talks about, but not sure on their durabilty.
To be honest - the brakes are so good on a Cayman R, you could just run stock and possibly look at cooling scoops (if Caymans don't have them?). I would be suprised if you had a brakes issue in a Cayman R?
When you change the pads - change the disks too for best results.
05-06-2015, 05:23 AM
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05-06-2015, 07:08 AM
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sorry been 6 days golfing in Queenstown, otherwise would have offered mine
has mike connections etc..if you want it is available..how big your head..
sorry been 6 days golfing in Queenstown, otherwise would have offered mine
has mike connections etc..if you want it is available..how big your head..
05-06-2015, 07:27 AM
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I can meet up to grab the helmet for Matt this weekend, as he'll need it for documentation I assume. Otherwise meet up at documentation on Thursday? Let me know where and when. Cheers
05-06-2015, 07:44 AM
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Thanks for all the brake pad feedback guys. I have also spoken to Mike from Prosport and determined the current pads are definitely not endless as they are yellow, and all endless pads are blue. Macca I gather 072 or 073 relates to the shape/wear sensor and the compound he recommended was ME20.
So current pads are either Pagid RS29 or EBC yellow. I'll have to pull them to tell...
The only reason I'm asking is that the current pads have just 5-6mm of pad left before the backing plate and want to either swap them out or at least take a new set with me on the tour.
Mike thought the endless would bite better than the RS29 and would last just as long, but he has a vested interest in his advice! Will have to find some independent reviews/data.
The PFC 08 sound like the go... But I don't believe there are any in NZ so out of the running this time.
My disks are still almost new, no lip yet. I guess it's best to skim them when fitting new pads too?
The car already has castrol srf in it from October '14 so that's good.
So current pads are either Pagid RS29 or EBC yellow. I'll have to pull them to tell...
The only reason I'm asking is that the current pads have just 5-6mm of pad left before the backing plate and want to either swap them out or at least take a new set with me on the tour.
Mike thought the endless would bite better than the RS29 and would last just as long, but he has a vested interest in his advice! Will have to find some independent reviews/data.
The PFC 08 sound like the go... But I don't believe there are any in NZ so out of the running this time.
My disks are still almost new, no lip yet. I guess it's best to skim them when fitting new pads too?
The car already has castrol srf in it from October '14 so that's good.
05-06-2015, 07:47 AM
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I have always run the pagid enduro pad (yellows) - as you get a season (they last about as long as the disks) and they didn't squeel.
I am keen to try the endless pads Macca talks about, but not sure on their durabilty.
To be honest - the brakes are so good on a Cayman R, you could just run stock and possibly look at cooling scoops (if Caymans don't have them?). I would be suprised if you had a brakes issue in a Cayman R?
When you change the pads - change the disks too for best results.
I am keen to try the endless pads Macca talks about, but not sure on their durabilty.
To be honest - the brakes are so good on a Cayman R, you could just run stock and possibly look at cooling scoops (if Caymans don't have them?). I would be suprised if you had a brakes issue in a Cayman R?
When you change the pads - change the disks too for best results.
05-06-2015, 07:49 AM
Three Wheelin'
Good to see the RSG Tour numbers swelling, with another late addition. Good stuff - am sure lots of fun to be had by all.
re helmets - give the amount of time they will be worn I always find it more comfortable to wear a balaclava.
Still quite a bit of car prep for me yet but hopefully will knock a few things off by the end of this week.
re helmets - give the amount of time they will be worn I always find it more comfortable to wear a balaclava.
Still quite a bit of car prep for me yet but hopefully will knock a few things off by the end of this week.