Flying Finn

Damn, Webber was way out there, blindingly fast, congrats! Winning the GP of Monaco it something they all dream about.

Alonso managed to salvage some points which I'm sure he's happy of, was helped a lot by the safety car obviously but still, got important points.

Vettel & Kubica drove well to but Webber outshone them big time.

Schumi provided the WTF moment in the end... WTF? Great job MS...
(and is penalized and ended up in 12th so good job).

Yeah Pete, I agree, there has never ever been any team orders or priorities with Schumi & Brawn... It's all conspiracy...

multi21

First let me be the first to say that Schumacher had a brain fart at the end (EDIT, 2010 rules say you can pass after the safety car is in, after the local yellow and before start finish). But a 20 second penalty? You know who was the race steward today...... Damon Hill..... finally extracts his revenge.

Finn,

Why don't you come clean and admit that Schumacher outraced Nico and was pulling away from him until each safety car period?

Then come clean and explain how you were wrong about Mercedes cocking up the pit stop for Nico? He had a 3.9 second pit stop!!!!! That is amazing and still came out behind Schumacher.

Y'all need to face facts, Schumi is now feeling comfortable and is on pace or better than Nico and will only pull away from him from here on in. You don't become a 7 time World Champion and 91 GP race winner with smoke and mirrors or conspiracy




BTW, congrats to Webber. The guy is in another league right now and significantly more dominate over his teammate than anyone thought.

Lewis Hamilton continues to race neck and neck with Alonso as the biggest Prima Dona on the grid with his continual chastising of the team

Larry Herman

Do you think so? Who here saw the green light on when the safety car pulled in? That is certainly a point of conflict between rules and situation.

multi21

I stand corrected. Schumacher did not pull a brain fart/bone head move. He was specifically told by Ross Brawn about the new for 2010 rules about overtaking after the safety car pulls in and after the yellow and before start finish.

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-...ali-and-brawn/

That doesn't change the fact that Damon Hill penalized him to 12th place, but Mercedes is going to appeal the penalty based on the new 2010 rules.

multi21

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-...***-was-legal/


My guess is that after the appeal, Schumacher will get another one over on Damon Hill that was brought in to be the celebrity judge of the day. Hill will appear as the celebrity judge on American Idol next week....

Flying Finn

Yeah, it would've been be real smart from Nico to stay glued to Schumi's gearbox and overheat the engine...
And please don't reply why didn't Nico try to pass...

Settle down and read my post, I said if Schumi doesn't manage to pass Nico at the start, something funny might happen with Nico's pitstop.
So there, I "came clean".

You're right, in fact, I'd say as much right as you are with the fact that there never has been any favoritism with Schumi-Brawn duo...

Interesting about the new rules by the way, I've said it before but I need to repeat, Ross Brawn is a genius. It seems that it was a legal although the rule (old rule?) says if the race ends with the safety car on the track, it will pull in on the last lap and the cars will drive to the checkered flag without passing. We'll see.

My993C2

I suspect two things are in play here with Webber's success (versus his teammate Vettel):

1) Vettel had a lot of speed early in the season, but he was likely over driving his car which caused some of his early season problems. It appears that he has dialed it back in order to start collecting points that were lost earlier in the year.

2) If you got to see the post race interviews (viewers of Speed TV did not thanks to their brain dead decision of cutting away to cover useless pre-race NASCAR commentary 3-4 hours before the actual NASCAR race began), you would have caught Vettel saying something along the line of since passing is extremely difficult at Monaco and since Vettel was already behind Webber from the start, Vettel decided to not push it this race and spent more time looking in his mirrors defending from Kubica and less time trying to chase down Webber.

But of course what do I know ... I am just some Joe on the

Agreed ... Hamilton is a talented driver, but he needs to take his spoiled spoon fed sucker out of his mouth and realize that racing is a team sport.

multi21

Don't worry Petu, his engine wasn't going to overheat, it's not like Nico drives for McLaren where they leave engine covers on during the installation lap...

Ahhhhh, the Evil Empire is falling apart. First they don't put Hamilton's left front wheel on properly in Spain causing a DNF while in 2nd place and now they basically fry the engine before the race even started for Jensen who was leading the WDC until this morning.

theporscheguy

Did anyone see the driver's post race comments in your part of the world? Cutting to a commercial when Button appeared to be done at the beginning of the race. Missing a restart while at commercial. Damn ugly coverage from my point of view. What do expect from the Nascar channel.

9.5 Degrees

Just finished watching the race and wanted to come on here and put it in Pete's face and Michael Schumacher for another screw up at Monaco and all his Alonso bashing, but given that I didn't have all the facts, it looks pretty clear that what was thought to originally be a complete mess up, was a brillant move taking full advantage of the sporting regulations. Ross Brawn is a genius and his executioner, MS is as well. Damn

Great move by Ferrari pulling Alonso into the pits on lap 2 of the SC and moving him all the way up to 6th or 7th depending on how this appeal plays out.

Stepping back and looking at the facts (and it's hard for me to say this as a hard and fast Fernando Alonso fan), Schumacher does look to be getting the best of his teammate. He's beaten him in the last 2 races and with both the long and short wheelbase car. Let's see how it goes in Turkey, but it looks like he's getting on with the program now.

This is just my opinion, but I believe McLaren is spending way too much attention on Lewis Hamilton and not enough on Button. Allowing a car to leave the pits while leaving a cooling duct closed is just unexcusable. Button was leading the championship up until today and I can't see McLaren doing that with Hamilton's car. A wheel nut during a 4 second pit stop is one thing. A non rushed brightly covered air duct fixture is quite another. The same excuse with those saying Schumacher is getting preferred treatment can apply that same logic to the fact Hamilton is getting preferred treatment over Button. You can argue that Hamilton is faster, but the facts remain that Button is a 2 time race winner over 5 races (at that point) and lead the championship quite handily over his teammate.

500

I don't know if MS really beat Rosberg this weekend. They both had their moments. Best one can say it that they were fairly close.

This last lap pass incident was certainly confusing. Apparently there is a rule specific to last laps in this situation (new for this year). Suffice to say: It was confusing and will no doubt be debated for a long time to come.

Webber was outstanding and it will be fantastic to watch the rivalry, as Vettel will go nuts trying to come to terms with Webber's speed.

Kubica was my driver of the race, well, weekend actually. Everytime the camera was on him, in car or out, it looked thrilling. He was on it 100%.

To my mind Mercedes disproved that notion that they are favoring MS to the detriment of Nico. When it became clear he (Rosberg) was able to get some good clear laps in after the others had stopped, they kept him out and if it weren't for him getting stuck behind Webber duirng Webbo's out-lap, Rosberg wouild almost have certainly emerged in front of that gaggle of cars behind Alonso. NOT the approach you would take if you wanted to ensure MS stayed ahead at all costs.

I will stop commenting on this though, as I know there are some who will always reverse-engineer the happenings to support a viewpoint that the evidence fails to support!

A.Wayne

Stoolmacher is the gift that keeps on giving ... LOL.........


Schumacher handed 20-second penalty

By Pablo Elizalde Sunday, May 16th 2010, 16:37 GMT

Michael Schumacher has been handed a 20-second penalty for having overtaken Fernando Alonso on the final corner of the Monaco Grand Prix.

The Mercedes GP driver passed Alonso just as the safety car had left the circuit on the final lap, and stewards deemed the race was still finishing under the safety car.

Under rule 40.13, which states that "if the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pitlane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking," Schumacher has been given a penalty.

The German, who had passed Alonso for sixth, drops down to 12th, meaning Toro Rosso's Sebastien Buemi's scores the final point for 10th.

Revised race results

Pos Driver Team
1. Webber Red Bull-Renault
2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault
3. Kubica Renault
4. Massa Ferrari
5. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
6. Alonso Ferrari
7. Rosberg Mercedes
8. Sutil Force India-Mercedes
8. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes
10. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari
11. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari
12. Schumacher Mercedes
13. Petrov Renault

World Championship standings, round 6:

Drivers: Constructors:
1. Webber 78 1. Red Bull-Renault 156
2. Vettel 78 2. Ferrari 136
3. Alonso 75 3. McLaren-Mercedes 129
4. Button 70 4. Mercedes 78
5. Massa 61 5. Renault 65
6. Kubica 59 6. Force India-Mercedes 30
7. Hamilton 59 7. Williams-Cosworth 8
8. Rosberg 56 8. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 4
9. Schumacher 22
10. Sutil 20
11. Liuzzi 10
12. Barrichello 7
13. Petrov 6
14. Alguersuari 3
15. Hulkenberg 1
16. Buemi 1

All timing unofficial


Yaaaaahoooooo what a numbnut ...............

Veloce Raptor

A.Wayne

Pinhead Position!

Alonso from dead last past your Mutt Hero who has now been penalized in his last 2 Monaco GP...Consistency ..Yep!....

Yep Schumacher is in Rosbergs head:

8. Rosberg 56 8.
9. Schumacher 22

Schumacher would not have stood a chance against Rosberg without Mercedes /Brawn's help

Yep so much so you picked vettel ....LOL........

Larry Herman

Yes I did. I always liked Webber and have always felt that he was under-rated, but over the last 2 years (the last 2 races non-withstanding) Vettel has proven to be faster. Your inability to see this probably explains why you can only like one driver at a time.