View Poll Results: Who will win the Conga race?
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Felipe Massa
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Rubens Barrichello
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Nico Hulkenberg
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Robert Kubica
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Vitaly Petrov
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Adrian Sutil
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Viantonio Liuzzi
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Sebastien Buemi
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Jamie Alguersuari
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Jarno Trulli
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Heikki Kovalainen
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Bruno Senna
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Pedro de la Rosa
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Kamui Kobayashi
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Timo Glock
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Lucas di Grassi
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2010 Monaco Grand Prix
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It's not a joke. He is and has been since joining the Scuderia.
Besides, it's not like Ferrari hasn't had engine problems this year and yet no complaint. As a matter of fact technical director, Stefano Domenical was more critical and showed more concern than Alonso did, who btw just said that he was "100% confident in the team's ability to resolve the issue."
I know you've driven at a high level, but have you ever been the one to turn the wrench? You do all you can to get a car right, analyse everything, double and triple check things, make adjustments and 99% of the time you do everything correctly. But that 1% of the time when something is not tightened down or something you forgot to do in haste comes back to bite your driver in a DNF, there is no one more self critical than yourself. No one needs the driver to come up and start to throw a fit about the mistake as well.... on worldwide television. I've never seen or known a mechanic to publically criticise a driver when they StrekStrekStrekStreked up a corner and crashed a car out. Never.
Pete if people don't like Alonso, that's one thing but they should be equal opportunity critics as well as give credit to someone who makes changes for self improvement purposes.
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It's really a bit of a silly race but glad to see Webber prevail. Now we hear Ferrari is sniffing around him so perhaps his stocks are rising and he'll get some credit finally....
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It's specifically spelled on the regulations what happens if the race is under SC during the last lap, section 40.13, so the pass is illegal. Now I don't know if there was a mistake from the marshals in changing it to green flag/light after the SC pitted. In any case MS should be able to argue he was misled by those green flags and then the penalty could be removed but in my opinion he should go back to 7th spot...
You really think Alonso was racing at that point a got passed by the great Michael...?![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
You really think Alonso was racing at that point a got passed by the great Michael...?
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Post-race, MS has been given a drive-through penalty. Since it's after the race, the penalty has been converted into a 20 second penalty. MS goes from 6th to 12th.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...0/5/10799.html
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...0/5/10799.html
Also +1 for Newey. Even the five times Champion JM Fangio said: "It's car racing, not men racing"
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Under rule 40.13, which states that "if the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pitlane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking," Schumacher has been given a penalty.
The race was already hooooveeer .. hence the penalty ......
The race was already hooooveeer .. hence the penalty ......
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Anyone catch the LH whine back to his team about telling him to go easy on the front brakes? LH is really turning out to be very critical of the very entity that nurtured him into F1.
Its well known LH winds in a ton of front brake bias -- meaning he struggles with controlling his car with much rear bias -- wimp
Its well known LH winds in a ton of front brake bias -- meaning he struggles with controlling his car with much rear bias -- wimp
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You must be joking Fred ! You make it sound like only Alonso benefited from the safety car moments...,
Alonso was without a doubt the drive of the day , now if only he would stop making stupid mistakes that cost him track position so he can start controlling the top podium .
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Alonso was without a doubt the drive of the day , now if only he would stop making stupid mistakes that cost him track position so he can start controlling the top podium .
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On the MS topic, I think Rosberg will have to get used to seeing the back of Schumi's car. Barring the call at the end of the race, it seems to me that the old man is getting back to being the top performer he once was. That's fun to watch and that is good for F1.
Lastly, I must say that I take great pleasure in seeing LH struggle. Serious attitude problem.
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Just try and think about this dispassionately.
Alonso saves 22 seconds by the dispatch of the safety car, passes 6 of the slowest cars, secures 12 positions through pit stops, and then benefits from another safety car to close up the gaps. Excellent drive, but eliminate the SC, deduct those 22 seconds and where would he have been?
Webber never puts a wheel wrong, drives away from everyone including his teammate and wins handily. Eliminate the SC and Webber would have won by 30 some seconds. At least an equal drive in my mind.
Alonso saves 22 seconds by the dispatch of the safety car, passes 6 of the slowest cars, secures 12 positions through pit stops, and then benefits from another safety car to close up the gaps. Excellent drive, but eliminate the SC, deduct those 22 seconds and where would he have been?
Webber never puts a wheel wrong, drives away from everyone including his teammate and wins handily. Eliminate the SC and Webber would have won by 30 some seconds. At least an equal drive in my mind.
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Larry,
I disagree. Webber's was THE "drive of the day", in that he didn't make any mistakes and had the whole field covered as far as speed.
Alonso's drive was awesome from a strategic point of view, much like many of Schumi's old drives from the past, where he (Alonso, like Schumi before him) did what they had to do to make the strategy work. Alonso and Ferrari didn't know when nor how many SC periods there would be, but when they did come, they took full advantage of them. They deserve some credit for that. Start 24th anywhere and finish 6th is no easy task at all, but to that at Monaco, well that's just in a different league all together. Yesterday's race proved to me that Alonso & la Scuderia are working real well together. That's no good news for the rest of the grid. Sooner or later they will stop having this many issues and then look out. Even with all the things that have gone wrong for FA this season, he's only 3 points behind in Championship.
Oh and you should know better than to what if anything in motor racing. What if he doesn't screw up and crash on Saturday and can actually qualify, where would he had qualified and ultimately finished? It works both ways. You can't what if Motorsports.
I disagree. Webber's was THE "drive of the day", in that he didn't make any mistakes and had the whole field covered as far as speed.
Alonso's drive was awesome from a strategic point of view, much like many of Schumi's old drives from the past, where he (Alonso, like Schumi before him) did what they had to do to make the strategy work. Alonso and Ferrari didn't know when nor how many SC periods there would be, but when they did come, they took full advantage of them. They deserve some credit for that. Start 24th anywhere and finish 6th is no easy task at all, but to that at Monaco, well that's just in a different league all together. Yesterday's race proved to me that Alonso & la Scuderia are working real well together. That's no good news for the rest of the grid. Sooner or later they will stop having this many issues and then look out. Even with all the things that have gone wrong for FA this season, he's only 3 points behind in Championship.
Oh and you should know better than to what if anything in motor racing. What if he doesn't screw up and crash on Saturday and can actually qualify, where would he had qualified and ultimately finished? It works both ways. You can't what if Motorsports.
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The SC had a very big impact on the race. Had it come out again before the first round of pit stops, then Alonso would have leapfrogged even further up.
More importantly, each time it came out it compressed the field, giving Weber a clear track instead of having to deal with backmarkers. A big risk at Monaco was averted. Even though he was clearly the fastest, he had it all going his way.
More importantly, each time it came out it compressed the field, giving Weber a clear track instead of having to deal with backmarkers. A big risk at Monaco was averted. Even though he was clearly the fastest, he had it all going his way.
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Lastly, giving Schu a 20 sec penalty when everyone is queued behind the SC is as good as disqualifying him. Not that he didn't deserve it. Can you imagine if he'd have taken Alonso out?